Tru Calling

[Charon]

My mate is slowly lending me the first season (2 eps left) on DVD. I must say, for yet another cheesy american buffy-esque tv show it's actually really really good. >_<
So I'm looking for people to chat about it to, especially as I've decided to use the fundamental theme for a DnD game I'm starting soon where the characters will have the same "powers" as Tru. :)

[Kilu]

Heh. I've watched the whole series. It was quite okay, but at some point the cheesyness changed to seriousness. Too often good shows start to take themselves too seriously and try to make the world a better place.

[Charon]

Up to episode 4 in series 2. Just 2 more eps to go then I hit cancellation point. :( Shame really, the show is awesome. And I really wanted to know how it's decided who gets the choice to ask for help. And whther the offer is permanent. Davis after all has asked for help twice, once from Tru and once from Tru's mum. And after seeing season 2...


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I'm interested in knowing exactly what the pre-requisites are to ask for help from Jack rather than Tru. He serves fate after all so you would expect that no one should be asking him for help... Also wondering if the current pattern of boys = fate, girls = freedom is set, and what happens should Tru die? And her father... just how did he retire? Jack specifically says that he USED to do the fate thing, how did he stop reliving days? Why did Jack start? So many questions. :(

[Kilu]

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Well, I always thought that Jack retired when Tru's mom got killed. I guess there was a point when there was no helper around, and when Tru became the new one a new fate had to chosen too, or something. :p

Also, the only time I recall that Jack was asked for help was once, when the help was not to help the girl live, but rather serve the fate, but with a slightly different ending, so to speak. So, basically, when someone wants to live, they ask for Tru, but when someone wants to die differently, they ask for Jack.

:D

But really, thinking about stuff that you can never really know how it was planned will make you crazy. :)

[Charon]

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Well, I always thought that Jack retired when Tru's mom got killed. I guess there was a point when there was no helper around, and when Tru became the new one a new fate had to chosen too, or something. :p

Also, the only time I recall that Jack was asked for help was once, when the help was not to help the girl live, but rather serve the fate, but with a slightly different ending, so to speak. So, basically, when someone wants to live, they ask for Tru, but when someone wants to die differently, they ask for Jack.

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But really, thinking about stuff that you can never really know how it was planned will make you crazy. :)
Yeah, I'm wondering abut the mechanics of stuff like that.

First off, point 1 you made about Tru's dad retiring. Tru's mom died, and hence passed on the ability to Tru. This suggest to me that the recipient of the powers does not have to be willing to receive them. If so, Tru's fatehr could have effectively forced his powers onto Jack, or did he? Maybe if Tru's mom dies, both powers have to be apssed on simulataneously and Jack was just unlucky.

Point 2 I already discussed with a friend and we agree with you. Jack has to follow fate's plan, as long as the same people who died yesterday die today, and the same people who lived live it doesn't really matter about how exactly events transpire. The victim who asked Jack for help basically asked him not to save her from dying, but merely alter the eprception of her death so as to be viewed as the accident it was, and not the suicide everyone thought it was.

The main question bugging me now is....who gets to ask for help? And why?

And it won't bug me, I love speculating. It's sometimes fun not to know, like with Vagrant Story. :P