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Zedie9
08-05-2004, 11:34 AM
:emlaugh: A typo pretty much ruined the old poll, so I'm starting a new one. :p

Locke, would you please lock the old one?

BAMAToNE
08-05-2004, 11:53 AM
It's 5 for me! The job class system rules, and the music and storyline all blend together fabulously.

:bouncy:

kai
08-05-2004, 11:58 AM
does this mean we have to re-post our old opinions? . . . meh

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i enjoyed ffx and x-2. i don't think ffx has little, if any, replay value but i enjoyed it the first time through. and ffx-2 has huge replay value with the costume/class system. but that is just me :banana: o_o

anyways my favorite ff game would have to be ffV/IX/ or X-2. ffv for it's class system and hilarious dialogue. IX simply because it is my favorite plot and i think the most indepth. and x-2 for the class system and modern twist . . . . . :popcorn:

Zedie9
08-05-2004, 12:02 PM
does this mean we have to re-post our old opinions? . . . meh

:D You certainly don't have to - but then, most of us like posting our opinions, which is why we post in the first place. ;)

kai
08-05-2004, 12:25 PM
just because you like something doesn't mean you want to repost it over and over again . . . . . for example this :banana: cute fellow is rather entertaining but i am sure after a while i will tire of his hypnotic stare and . . . . . . O_O

silverDistortioN
08-05-2004, 12:36 PM
FF7 is my favorite because i say so.

i liked FF5 because it had the class system i liked so much in tactics, plus the walking around the world i liked so much in every other final fantasy.

1 i just thought was awesome... the character upgrades were cool... i was amazed when i figured out you can use weapons as an item and have them cast spells... i liked how it reduced the size of the explorable world without leading you along on a leash. etc etc etc...

FF4... the end kinda spoiled it for me a bit... but i liked it a bit better than 6, i think.

Giea
08-05-2004, 01:40 PM
X and X-2 good story characters... and Hot Chicks =))

Kilu
08-05-2004, 02:51 PM
X and X-2 good story characters... and Hot Chicks =))

Yeah, one of the more important part of RPGs.

I voted for 9. As far as 1-6 goes, haven't finished none of them. 6 didn't get me hooked, and after a long struggle and boredomnes I got to the last fortress, I needed to divide into groups, and I had only 6 decently leveled characters. Haven't touched the game since. FF7 had this covered, because every character, eventhough they weren't part of the fighting group, followed 5(right? maybe 10, can't remember) levels behind the leader. I have only finished this once, and it doesn't make me want to finish it again. Big part of this is Uematsus music and how I have grown so bored with it.

FF8 was decent, but the whole experience was ruined by DRAW! which I hated. Junctioning was cool and all that, but to junction magic one needs to DRAW magic... And not to mention the small fact that I hate it when angsty teenagers are the last and only hope of earth (or whatever). However, strangely enough this is the only FF game that I have finished twice. FF9 was more fun game than any of the previous ones. The plot was a lot funnier and characters were wacky. Though there were some darker parts, in total it was full of life and happiness. And even Uematsu didn't ruin it :p Though he used lots of lead synths for this one, the musics were very fitting and is the only FF album by Uematsu that I like to listen outside the game.

FFX, haven't finished yet. Fun game, and blitzball rocks. Though voice acting is below average, and I often found myself to push button as soon as I had read the subs, it didn't ruin it. Only reason I haven't finished this is a scratch on disc :p And I should mention that Hamauzu kicks ass. Nakano has also some fine pieces in here, even Uematsu has few, but Hamauzu whoops ass.

As for FFX-2, haven't touched the game yet. I know I hate the music, but I'm still planning to play it.

I'm almost certain that FFT will claim the top spot as soon as I get into it though. I know I love the music, and so far I have enjoyed other tactics games I have played.

And this is my longest post these new forums. Hoorj! :w00t:

daniel
08-05-2004, 04:40 PM
But Zedie favorite is also a spelling mistake, use proper English it doesn't look so kiddy;):D

WHEeeeeeeeee and Kai now it has been confirmed WHY people use 7 8 9 NOT VII VIII and IX :)

Kaze Nigai
08-05-2004, 04:51 PM
What the crap...You took IV off this one ¬_¬;

FF1 through 3 haven't played.

FF4 - :heartsign:

FF5 - Haven't finished. . .¬_¬ I like the class system, but since you get all the classes on the first world, I get pretty bored soon after.

FF6 - Teh Sabin! It's a great game with a really in depth story ^_^ Definetly a classic. . .even if I haven't finished. ((Same thing as Kilu sadly...))

FF7 - ~_~ I'm just not impressed. . .never was either.

FF8 - I liked it. . .I have no idea as to why, but it's an overall good game for the most part, and some of the music is moving.

FFIX - ¬_¬; The only reason they shouldn't erase the exsistance of this game is the great Soundtrack it has going for it, and Beatrix.

FFX - >.<; Besides playing Blitzball((I don't like the concept, but the game was fun)) I just don't like it. The character designs were unmotivated, the music certainly wasn't anything special, and the story just irked me for some reason.

FFX-2 - I've been told it's a fun game. However the music burns, the character design burns, the story burns. ¬_¬; What the hell did they do to the Bard class!?!?!?!?

FFT- Whooo~ Addictive as hell. Deeeeep story, great music. The job system kept things entertaining. Basicly everything up to Orlandu was fun!

FFTA - It was quite a dissapointment. Since they'll be using some of the design concepts for XII I don't look forward too it one bit. >.O; They beat moogles with the ugly stick. . .multiple times! The story just wasn't entertaining in the least, and none of the character were that inspiring. . .though Ritz was kinda cool, even though she has the same name as a Booby Bar near where I live. . .

silverDistortioN
08-05-2004, 07:19 PM
through most of the game, i was loving FF4... but then at the end, all the characters suddenly sprout back to life.

it came off a bit too contrivedly sacchrine for me.

Kaze Nigai
08-05-2004, 08:31 PM
Well it's like how in some of your favorite Anime((Well half the storys in exsistance)), the hero of the story is near dead. . .the he's reminded of his/her reason for being wherever they hell they may happen to be, and they regain the will to fight~! On another note they weren't dead...merely unconsious...

Iunno...Still my favorite :D

daniel
08-05-2004, 09:33 PM
kaze man not liking ff7 is like not existing, you suck. man beats me how some ppl can see nothing in it, must be blind or sommert!:wall:

You can like the ones before VI but not VII? something VERY odd there, maybe you meant XIII???

DarkSoul
08-05-2004, 09:42 PM
My favorte Final Fantasy would have to be the one that got me into the series. That would be FF6 / 3.
It was by far quite good. And for the SNES was a very well accomplished RPG.
I rank it #1 on my list, While Final Fantasy 5 ranks as #2 then comes final Fantasy 7 after that.

silverDistortioN
08-05-2004, 10:03 PM
Well it's like how in some of your favorite Anime((Well half the storys in exsistance)), the hero of the story is near dead. . .the he's reminded of his/her reason for being wherever they hell they may happen to be, and they regain the will to fight~! On another note they weren't dead...merely unconsious...well... i don't really like those kinds of animes. ^.~
...and yeah, i know they were all alive from the get go, but that doesn't make it any better.

Zedie9
08-05-2004, 11:41 PM
What the crap...You took IV off this one ¬_¬; FF4 - :heartsign:
:emlaugh: Sorry... The polls are currently limited to only 10 items, so I chose the ones I thought more people would interested in voting for. *shrug* :spin:

Kilu
08-06-2004, 03:45 AM
kaze man not liking ff7 is like not existing, you suck. man beats me how some ppl can see nothing in it, must be blind or sommert!:wall:

You can like the ones before VI but not VII? something VERY odd there, maybe you meant XIII???

:lamesign:

You have no need to crucify people who don't share the same view as you. Let's not go there again.

Grim
08-06-2004, 01:36 PM
MY favourite would be FF1, I actually like alot of the older games like FF1 - FF6, once they started 7 and up, everything seems to be more graphics heavy and less story....alot more is needed than good graphics in an RPG, actually a good RPG doesn't need ANY graphics at all


(Note: this was basically a repost from the other thread, slightly modified.)

silverDistortioN
08-06-2004, 01:43 PM
i always thought FF7 was lacking in graphics... aside from the cut scenes, that is. i mean, just look at the overworld models...

several months ago, someone managed to convince me the character development was subpar, but after playing it again, i see that even in the relatively underdeveloped characters, it is still quite excellent.

Kyari
08-06-2004, 05:39 PM
My vote went to IX. I won't explain my reasoning again as thoroughly as in the previous forums, so here's the rundown . . .

I bonded with many of the characters. They were so beautifully crafted, so natural-seeming in such an advanced, broad fantasy environment. While the music was full of synth, I never felt it to be out of place (maybe I just connect with Uematsu a bit too much) . . . it's my favorite FF soundtrack, with VIII and VII tying for #2.

Anyway, after downloading the PSFs and listening to them again, I am as impressed as ever with this game. Thanks, Square.

Locke Cole
08-06-2004, 08:28 PM
:emlaugh: Sorry... The polls are currently limited to only 10 items, so I chose the ones I thought more people would interested in voting for. *shrug* :spin:
You thought more people would vote for FF2 (NES, released originally only in Japan....) then FF4?! Are you bonkers? :P

Kyari
08-06-2004, 09:06 PM
Well, FFII did have somewhat of a better battle system . . . and FFIV had a rather melodramatic, predictable (dead, dead, alive . . . . thins one's gonna die as well . . . he'll be back to life soon) plot :D

Kaze Nigai
08-06-2004, 09:21 PM
You have no need to crucify people who don't share the same view as you. Let's not go there again.Thanks for that input there Kilu :D

daniel, as you're entitled to your opinion, I am to mine. I don't think less of you for liking seven, and you shouldn't think less of me for not liking it.

In my defence for liking FFIV, the American SNES release of FFII was my first Final Fantasy game I ever played, wich is probably why I find it to be such a great game, where as it really isn't the most impressive game during the time.

Okay and about my liking seven, It's not that I don't like the game, it just really didn't impress me like it did ALOT of people. Years of fanboy/girls ranting and raving about how Sephiroth and Cloud were oh so cool just got annoying. It doesn't help that I know about 3 people who won't shut up about the game given the chance. So in a better light, not only was I not to impressed, I'm downright sick of it.

The materia system while orignal and different, just wasn't all that fun. The only character I really enjoyed were Cid, and Aeris ((~_~ Another reason for me not to like it)). (9Too tired to think of more to add))

Kyari
08-06-2004, 09:35 PM
I must ask . . . what was it you didn't like about IX, Kase? I really loved it. I agree about the soundtrack, but . . . I dunno. I found it fun. I didn't mind any predictability and didn't really guess everything at all. I thought it was fun, funny, and I didn't mind the simple battling at all.

silverDistortioN
08-06-2004, 09:43 PM
personally, i didn't find the character development of 9 all too extraordinary... of course, i only played through it once and i don't really remember much from it. i really enjoyed the moogle quest, tho... i don't remember what it was, exactly, but i do remember that artemicion was the coolest moogle ever.

and FFIV is far underrated, in my opinion.

Kyari
08-06-2004, 09:52 PM
FFIX is the only game I've ever played until 5 in the morning.

I have a great deal of difficulty explaining why I like the things I like . . . but nine hooked me. It drew me in.

I played to the end of disc 1 and fell asleep.

Kaze Nigai
08-06-2004, 10:39 PM
The game is fun, and I can't anything wrong with it, while you're on the main continent. As soon as you leave the main continent though, The entire game just got realy boring too me. The character designs for the most part were destroyed in the stages of taking them from paper and putting them in the game. I'm in love the the orignal character art, it looks fantastic, but the game version just looks too silly.

Aside from that part ((Wich stangley irritates me to no end.)) I'm not sure why exactly but I get bored with it, Kuja wasn't a very interesting enemy, transitioning wasn't the best, you didn't get to keep Beatrix on your team. . .

It's not a bad game, just certain parts irritate me more than others. I'd certainly suggest this game over X or X-2 though. The soundtrack for this one is enough to make me want to play it again, and maybe re-adjust my opinion.

I'd love to see the game redone, and the character models taken more seriously instead of being produced with large heads, and very bland clothing.

Zedie9
08-07-2004, 03:36 AM
kaze man not liking ff7 is like not existing, you suck. man beats me how some ppl can see nothing in it, must be blind or sommert!:wall:

You can like the ones before VI but not VII? something VERY odd there, maybe you meant XIII???
:lamesign:

You have no need to crucify people who don't share the same view as you. Let's not go there again.
:tophat: Good call. Nothing against your opinion, Daniel - just your vehement condescension. ;)

silverDistortioN
08-07-2004, 12:26 PM
i'm still waiting for him to actually vote for FF7... i'm the only one up there so far.

Kyari
08-07-2004, 02:01 PM
Heh. I bought the book of FFIX art . . . it's really amazing. Admittedly, they lost something in the transition, but I had the images from the book in my head . . . maybe that was a huge factor :D

Charon
08-07-2004, 02:25 PM
FF7 had Sephiroth. Coolest bad guy...ever! Nuff said.

Vicki
08-07-2004, 10:19 PM
I voted for 6, but I could just have easily voted for 9. I guess old alliances die hard. :) I haven't played 1-5, but I should get around to it in the next 10 years or so. I played most of the way through 7 but I didn't like it; I didn't care one hoot for the characters so I really didn't care if their world was destroyed. I thought 8 was fun, but the whole "don't level up" thing threw me off. Nine was really cool, but I lost interest in it after I saw the ending. It's hard to pick a game back up when you know everything that's going to happen. Ten was really good, but I couldn't help but feel like it was a long, long movie with a battle engine. I'm working through X-2 right now and it's okay, but Brother is kind of scary...

Kaze Nigai
08-07-2004, 10:51 PM
FF7 had Sephiroth. Coolest bad guy...ever! Nuff said.^ one point why I'm sick of FF7.

Kyari - Unfortunatly for me, I didn't get to see their good intentions.

Yuffie
08-08-2004, 02:17 AM
He did have pretty hair though. :)
Woulda looked cute in plaits. :D

Locke Cole
08-08-2004, 07:03 AM
I voted for 6, but I could just have easily voted for 9. I guess old alliances die hard. :) I haven't played 1-5, but I should get around to it in the next 10 years or so. I played most of the way through 7 but I didn't like it; I didn't care one hoot for the characters so I really didn't care if their world was destroyed. I thought 8 was fun, but the whole "don't level up" thing threw me off. Nine was really cool, but I lost interest in it after I saw the ending. It's hard to pick a game back up when you know everything that's going to happen. Ten was really good, but I couldn't help but feel like it was a long, long movie with a battle engine. I'm working through X-2 right now and it's okay, but Brother is kind of scary...
I have always had the same sort of problem, the replay value of my RPGs is limited, as it doesn't feel the same going through a second time. However, I found I could do so in FF6 :) I enjoyed maxing out every character, trying to get all the rages, etc. There was always something to keep me busy. Plus I enjoyed the characters, I could relate to some of them, and that helped me get into the game more.

For many people, FF7 was their first Final Fantasy game, and that sort of messes up their opinions of the ones which came before it. The graphics are lower, the system is older, many of them don't give it a chance. I'm glad I started with FF1, got to grow up and move forward as the series developed. However, I'm not a big fan of FFX or FFXI. :/ I think its losing its touch.

Charon
08-08-2004, 10:33 AM
I did like the chocobo hot n cold sub game in 9. But their card game sucked. In fact, Tetra Master may just have been 8's saving grace. That and the awesome FMV.

Kaze Nigai
08-08-2004, 03:35 PM
However, I'm not a big fan of FFX or FFXI. :/ I think its losing its touch.I too, share the opinion.

Tantalus
08-09-2004, 06:41 AM
FF7 is by far the best in my opinion as i believe it has the greatest story out of them all. I also enjoyed FF9 and FF10. FF10-2 was a major disaster, what were they thinking.

P.S. my name has changed from Fluk to Tantalus

daniel
08-09-2004, 07:36 AM
I thought Final Fantasy 10 was great, brilliant musical score, brilliant graphics, nice asian touch. The storyline was great and the ending was not wimpy and although FF10-2 has sort of ruined it I simply don't acknowledge FF10-2 as a final fantasy :)

Plus voices were cool esp Seymour and at times tidus was a tidge annoying but other than that the game as a whole hets 9 out of 10 for me and I have recommended a few girls I know online to play this before FF7 (even though 7 is the best computer game in history imho).

Anyway roll on 12, 13 and beyond, and hopefully we will stick with Nojima, Sakaguchi and Uematsu for future releases and not the pathetic mix that made FF10-2 ;)

Kilu
08-09-2004, 08:42 AM
Anyway roll on 12, 13 and beyond, and hopefully we will stick with Nojima, Sakaguchi and Uematsu for future releases and not the pathetic mix that made FF10-2 ;)

Well, FFXII will not be a game from the 'FF team'. Yasumi Matsuno's (Vagrant Story, FFT) team is the one responsible for the game, Matsuno himself as a director and producer. As far as I know, Uematsu will compose only the main theme of the game, rest if for Hitoshi Sakimoto. I'm glad :p This is by far THE FF game that I expect to blow my mind :p

daniel
08-09-2004, 10:05 AM
If uematsu is only doing the main theme then we can expct another FF10-2 in terms of sound, no decent fanfare again....

oh well atleast Advent Children is Nobuo and I think when the sales of FF10-2 and 12 are matched to Uematsu's success they will beg him to do the rest. He must be busy

I am now looking less forward to FF12

EDIT: yeah threy got the good old dude from BOF5 music in, you know that composer who is nowhere near as good as uematsu, man i hated BOF5 soundtrack, why has Uematsu not ben composing since FF10. It just isn't the same without him!

Also Kilu, can't understand what you're so glad about lol, without the main team and uematsu this game won't be anywhere near the level of FF7-10, how can you make a final fantasy without the main final fantasy team? answer: you can't

Kilu
08-09-2004, 12:52 PM
If uematsu is only doing the main theme then we can expct another FF10-2 in terms of sound, no decent fanfare again....

oh well atleast Advent Children is Nobuo and I think when the sales of FF10-2 and 12 are matched to Uematsu's success they will beg him to do the rest. He must be busy

I am now looking less forward to FF12

EDIT: yeah threy got the good old dude from BOF5 music in, you know that composer who is nowhere near as good as uematsu, man i hated BOF5 soundtrack, why has Uematsu not ben composing since FF10. It just isn't the same without him!

Also Kilu, can't understand what you're so glad about lol, without the main team and uematsu this game won't be anywhere near the level of FF7-10, how can you make a final fantasy without the main final fantasy team? answer: you can't

And for me, it's the exact opposite.

I might add that Hitoshi Sakimoto's score will probably appeal to quite many Square fans (not FF fans), Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics (Advance) were (mostly) by him, and have quite nice following.

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 12:53 PM
P.S. my name has changed from Fluk to Tantaluswow! you seem smarter already! (seriously... >.>)

how can you make a final fantasy without the main final fantasy team? answer: you can'twell, obviously they are, so that makes this statement automatically false.

but i'm not particularly expecting 12 to blow my mind. i was expecting 8 and/or 9 to, though... but alas. (no, i haven't played much of 8, but if anyone really thinks it's *that* good, i'm sure i can track a friend down who has it.)

daniel
08-09-2004, 12:57 PM
OK then silver i'll put it in Numpty terms for you. This game will probably be alot shitter than the previous ones. and also which numpty voted for FFX-2 as their fave FF?

Kilu
08-09-2004, 12:58 PM
OK then silver i'll put it in Numpty terms for you. This game will probably be alot shitter than the previous ones. and also which numpty voted for FFX-2 as their fave FF?

Btw, as I have understood it, FFX-2 is made by the 'FF Team', not including Uematsu. I could be wrong, but I need proof :p

daniel
08-09-2004, 01:00 PM
It probably is, and as I understand it, they were taking the mick out of charlies blah angels when they made it....With Uematsu I may have liked it more...but i highly doubt it

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 01:00 PM
This game will probably be alot shitter than the previous ones.i take it by "probably," you're referring to the random guess you're making based on no real evidence whatsoever.

daniel
08-09-2004, 01:02 PM
Nope, based on the fact that Nojima and Sakaguchi co wrote the greatest of them all and also the fact that FFX-2's musical score was nothing compared to the rest.
I think 12 may proove me wrong hopefully it will...but we will see. Obviously i am gutted about Uematsu only doing the main theme :(:(:(

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 01:03 PM
...and by "fact," i take it you mean "opinion."

daniel
08-09-2004, 01:04 PM
ha ha never:D ok on this perhaps but FFX-2 being the greatest FF, not on your life!

Kilu
08-09-2004, 01:08 PM
Nojima and Sakaguchi co wrote

But how do you know who wrote this one? I don't. I only know that director and producer is the man I mentioned before. The story may as well be from Sakaguchi or Nojima or both.

As far as the trailer and screenshots goes, FFXII looks a lot like FFX blended with Vagrant Story. The have reduced the polygon count a bit since the skanky hos but raised texture details a bit. Music sound quite Sakimotoish, Vagrant Story and FFT more than BoF5 (which was a bit different). Battle system is still vague, the trailer showed so little of it.

And that one dude has cool sideburns :p

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 01:09 PM
ha ha never:D ok on this perhaps but FFX-2 being the greatest FF, not on your life!yeah, yeah... point taken.
but apparently *someone* disagrees with you. =)

Kilu
08-09-2004, 01:15 PM
The apparent hero looks like all them lately, some weird blonde teen with windy hair.

But this dude looks like a life saver :) :D

http://205.209.144.11/hosting/userfiles/Kilu/FF12.jpg

Maybe even a game saver.

Kyari
08-09-2004, 02:06 PM
I don't mind Uematsu not doing anything but the theme at all. He's busy on Advent Children, right? And someone's gotta do the music :D

i take it by "probably," you're referring to the random guess you're making based on no real evidence whatsoever.

How about this for some alternate evidence? Given the template of FF games on each console, I'd say it's going to be excellent. The template being, of course:

-Game #1 on each console is a sort of breakthrough in some sense, focusing on doing new things with RPGs.

-Game #2 on each console focuses heavily on battles and gameplay.

-Game #3 on each system is usually well-loved, focusing on music, story, and characters. It winds up being somewhat of an epic.

For the most part, the template holds true. I discussed this on the old forums . . .

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 02:19 PM
i just want to point out that i sounded like such a bastard there because he called me a numpty!

Charon
08-09-2004, 02:33 PM
The apparent hero looks like all them lately, some weird blonde teen with windy hair.

But this dude looks like a life saver :) :D

http://205.209.144.11/hosting/userfiles/Kilu/FF12.jpg

Maybe even a game saver.
That's the latest hero?? They truly have lost it. I hated Tidus enough as it was. Goodbye Square... very soon it WILL be THE... Final... Fantasy.

Kyari
08-09-2004, 02:49 PM
I just wish they'd get the old deam back together, you know? Amano/Mitsuda, Uematsu, Sakaguchi . . . but oh well. Maybe they will soon.

Kilu
08-09-2004, 02:51 PM
No, that's not teh hero, as far as I know anyway.

These two are the main characters, as much as I have gathered. The dude I posted earlier... is cool. These two are not. But I guess it all comes down to your preferences. If you like the skanky hos of FFX-2, then you may find FFXII heroine ok.
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ff12/art-010.jpg

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 03:04 PM
...i'd do 'em.

actually, i'm kinda wanting to see that girl pick her nose. does that make me weird? =o

Kilu
08-09-2004, 03:14 PM
...i'd do 'em.

Of course you would. But this is supposed to be RPG, not some hentai dating sim :p

actually, i'm kinda wanting to see that girl pick her nose. does that make me weird? =o

No, same here :) Or maybe we are both weird.

daniel
08-09-2004, 03:24 PM
Ah well if Nojima and Sakaguchi DO write FFXII then great;) well actually i think FFXII wil be good I am just letting off steam about Uematsu :smash:

and Kyari me too (btw as you might have guessed I am too lazy for quotes)

Kaze Nigai
08-09-2004, 04:25 PM
I gotta a feeling, character design is going to be one of the major flaws for me again. If I can't bring myself to like the characters I can't bring myself to like the game.

For the main character of FFXII. . .he's a prince, but he doesn't seem like your dashing, charming, handsome prince. He looks like your whiny, angsty, annoying time. ¬_¬ The main heroine. . .need new clothing. . .her shoes are scary.

The first male posted. . .he's the only "decent" character I've seen. As for his girlfriend-thing. . .((>.>; I forgot what her race is called)) she just looks like a skank. . .~_~

I didn't like most of FFT:A, and partly because the races weren't very inspired, and since they're using them in XII, that doesn't leave me anything else to hope for either.

Kilu
08-09-2004, 04:39 PM
As for his girlfriend-thing. . .((>.>; I forgot what her race is called)) she just looks like a skank. . .~_~

Yeah, I gotta agree with you there. Bunny ears and black leather. It's almost like in Silver's sig :p There is nothing wrong with the race, but it seems to me that lately the outfits on most of female FF characters have been more of a fanservice for nerdy teenage boys than anything else. I think they try to explain it with the climate that the game is happening. No one can wear furcoats and whatnot in hot climate... :p However, I will not let it distract me from the actual game :)

Leading chicks name is Ashe, and the blonde kid is Vaan. Rest is as follows.

Fran
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ff12/art-018.jpg

Balflear
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ff12/art-019.jpg

Basch
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ff12/art-023.jpg

Pannelo (what kind of name is that anyway)
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ff12/art-020.jpg

silverDistortioN
08-09-2004, 06:17 PM
i think the outfit design is more of a biproduct of the eastern-influenced male mind rather than a pandering to the horny teen. but i'm probably wrong.

i'm not liking the bunny lady. but maybe she's a slut in the game or something. =)
or maybe they're designing her character so you'd *think* she's a slut... >.>
hmmm......

Kaze Nigai
08-09-2004, 11:13 PM
I'm just completely unimpressed. The vierra class in FFT:A ~_~; It's like the cat-girl of the FF series. *surprised they aren't trying to add Mithra into the game somehow* Asid from that. . .her lover there is wearing Thick leather pants ~_~; If they're using heat as an excuse Balflear looks like he's going to die of heat exhaustion somewhere in the game.

The only thing about Basch that annoys me is the random pink frilly thing...

Pannelo could almost be wearing leather as protections except she has probably the most sensitive part of the leg uncovered...

Too me, everyone looks more or less just silly. Yes...yes I am a very pessmistic person. On that note. . .hey this game COULD be good. . .but I'm not giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Zedie9
08-10-2004, 02:11 AM
:nana: I like the bunny girl (Fran) and Pannelo, but I think the rest of them stink. Balflear looks like he was a member of Backstreet Boys or N'Synch, Basch looks constipated, the nose-picking girl needs skank clothes that at least go together with some kind of sense, and the girl below her needs more testosterone to avoid being called a girl. :p

Kilu
08-10-2004, 04:45 AM
and the girl below her needs more testosterone to avoid being called a girl. :p

hahah. yeah :)

I'm gonna bet that Balflear (you know the japanese L = R thingies, that would mean his name could be Barfrear... :D :D :D :D) is some wiseass cracking out witty comments all the time :) He looks like one.

Kaze Nigai
08-10-2004, 04:58 AM
Wouldn't be Barfreal? Since R and L are reversible. (("Burly Rangers~"))

¬_¬ He kinda looks like an interior decorator if ya ask me.

Kilu
08-10-2004, 05:12 AM
Wouldn't be Barfreal? Since R and L are reversible. (("Burly Rangers~"))

Well yeah, but Barfrear is more fun :p

daniel
08-10-2004, 09:03 AM
I agree with Kaze etc, I think that these outfits are purely for sex appeal and nothing more. But saying that they are cool and I hope the game is too, it's a bit of a shame the people at square seem to want to get an even bigger audience by degrading the image

Kaze Nigai
08-10-2004, 03:06 PM
Like daniel said, they seem to be leaning too much toward Final Fantasy graphical appearance. Wich Is good for them, because most people are only attracted through site, as it would probably burn their eyes to read more than three words at one time.
Bad for those of us who enjoy these storys told through character, of who's actions we control.

Zedie9
08-11-2004, 02:37 AM
Well yeah, but Barfrear is more fun :p
:D I dunno... Balfrear (pronounced ball-freer) might leave room for some jokes, too. :evilgrin:

Kaze Nigai
08-11-2004, 02:46 AM
I think he's already going to be open for some pretty bad jokes. . .the name just doesn't help.

Kilu
08-11-2004, 06:27 AM
But then again, it's quite possible that the name has already had the L <-> R treatment :)

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to this game, A LOT! :p

Yuffie
08-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Pannelo has a weird sort of Selphie thing going on. O.o

And the bunny girl's ears are too big. :p

silverDistortioN
08-11-2004, 04:39 PM
i just took another look at nose girl... i notice her skirt looks suspiciously like fruit roll-ups.

Zedie9
08-12-2004, 12:36 AM
i just took another look at nose girl... i notice her skirt looks suspiciously like fruit roll-ups.
:D So... you roll it up and eat the fruit? :angel:

</bad pervy laughter>

Kilu
08-12-2004, 04:21 AM
:D So... you roll it up and eat the fruit? :angel:

</bad pervy laughter>

This has been a :zedie: moment. This :zedie: moment was brought to you by Kilu Productions Incorporated. We at Kilu Productions Incorporated hope that you enjoyed it.

Yuffie
08-12-2004, 04:58 PM
What are fruit roll-ups? O.o

silverDistortioN
08-12-2004, 06:09 PM
basically edible underwear... but not yet made into underwear.

Giea
08-12-2004, 06:12 PM
you guys are mean... fruit roll ups are... strips of candy that taste like fruit! =)

"edit" go to google or yahoo and look for em' =)

silverDistortioN
08-12-2004, 06:14 PM
i didn't mean to be... mean. it's just that those are the only things that i know can accurately translate to british culture.

Kyari
08-17-2004, 09:05 AM
It's sticky candy fruit. It comes in sheets, you punch out shapes. No, none of the shapes are undies :D .

Yuffie
08-19-2004, 04:47 AM
We have these fruit winder things, they're basically a strip of candy stretched really long and placed on special paper stuff then rolled up and you peel it away as you eat it. :)

http://www.thetimes100.co.uk/images/company_images/6/24/Kelloggs4p.jpg

Kaze Nigai
08-19-2004, 01:45 PM
*points* It's Kellogg's brand Fruit-by-the-foot!

and in closing :offtopic:

Locke Cole
08-24-2004, 05:11 AM
Those thieves! Thats fruit by the foot blantly renamed :/ Ah well. What was this topic about again? Oh yes, Favourite FF. Well, the poll says FF6 is winning, w00t. :D

I'm actually surprised, I expected FF7 to be dominating. Most people seem to have entered the FF world late, and put FF7 above any SNES titles. I personally enjoyed FF4 more then 7 as well. FF6, FF4, then FF7 maybe... I dunno, FF1 was pretty cool... :)

Yuffie
08-28-2004, 06:49 AM
I haven't played most of the early titles but I liked 8 and 9 for the cute and romantic storylines. :p

I usually like a game for it's story rather than battles and challenges. :)

I like games that require puzzle solving too. :D

Ality
08-30-2004, 12:22 AM
FF1 lacked a story line and it was hella hard to level characters (The game did save Square's ass though).

Haven't played 2-3 on the NES, have 4 on PSX. 5 and 6 were ok.

Final Fantasy Freaking 7 is still my favorite! Music, Battle system and Materia, Characters (First time I witnessed Aerith die I cried :p.) Sephiroth is a awesome villain/friend. I CANT wait for Advent Children to come out!

FF8 got good for me at the end of the 2nd disk when the gardens started fighting and Squall saves Rinoa in space, cool story from there on out.

9 was ok, magic was cool but i didn't like the overall plot... to control the trance fighting power at free will? that was lame.

X is cool, haven't beaten it or played X-2. was X-2 good?

have FF11 on PC. World: Siren, Player: Ality lvl 20WHM/15BLM

Yuffie
08-30-2004, 05:32 AM
X-2 turns kinda girl powery and a bit lame...but still cute. :p
Some good songs in it though...some of the story ideas are a bit crap though...and the dresspheres annoy me no end... :shame:

When Aeris died I almost cried tears of joys and almost cried because "I had to drag that dumb bitch all over the damn world and then she goes and dies?! Well she better not come back!" :p

Ality
08-30-2004, 11:48 AM
Aeris was one of my best characters, fighting and healing. I have no idea how that happened, but one can be sure I was crippled for a while after that:knockedout:

Locke
09-30-2004, 12:22 AM
FF6 is leading in the polls. Definently good. Favourite games? I would need to say ff6, ff tactics, and then ff7. That'd be the order for me for the top three. 6 had the best storyline (in my opinion, anyways), and was the only ff game in which the characters were basically just ordinary people, who tried to save the world and failed, yet didn't give up hope and ultimatly triumphed. What other game gives you that :) . Tactics was just fun all around and I loved the class system (yes, 5 had it too, but tactics utilized it better). Plus, tactics was a dark game, which appealed to me in an odd sense. And 7, I think everyone will agree, was a great game all around, just not as in depth as 6 or as thought orientated as tactics (speaking only in regards to the battle system there, not meaning thought oriented in other ways.)

Anyways, that's the end of that particular rant on the ff games from me today ;)

Zedie9
04-10-2009, 09:22 PM
:) Hey Kilu - you wanna update and reset this poll, too? :spin:

Marona
04-10-2009, 09:56 PM
Wheres ff4?!

Zedie9
04-10-2009, 10:01 PM
:wonder: I think there were actually two of these... let me check and see if I grabbed the wrong one. :spin:

The other one didn't list them all either. Seems like at time of creation, there was a lower limit on poll choices or something. Wait for Kilu to add all the other FFs and reset the poll, and then vote. ;)

Kilu
04-11-2009, 12:07 PM
The poll limit used to be 10 items, it's been since upped to 30 items. :)

I looked at the old poll and it had games that aren't in "the main series", should I add all the FF games in this one? I mean, there's a lot of those these days with the Crystal Chronicles, more Tactics games and FF7 prequels and sequels and whatever else. Where should I draw the limit?

silverDistortioN
04-11-2009, 02:08 PM
Add every Final Fantasy ever created. Sequels, prequels, spin-offs, and rip-offs.

My favorite is Efu Efu Seven 1-2-3.

Zedie9
04-11-2009, 09:02 PM
:) I'd say include FF1 through 12. The Tactics, Crystal Chronicles, and various other games could be added (with preference in that order) or they could make up a separate poll and thread. What do the other maroons think? :spin:

Kilu
04-12-2009, 12:48 PM
It's your thread and your poll dude. You should decide. :p

Zedie9
04-13-2009, 12:20 AM
:) Fine - put as many as you can fit in there, provided FF1-12 are included. :spin:

pikatsu
04-13-2009, 05:19 AM
Mine would be 7, though, I think I'd like 9 more, if I'd play it more than once. I'm also rather fond of 8.

Kilu
04-13-2009, 01:20 PM
Alright, poll updated. I left the Final Fantasy Adventure and Final Fantasy Legend series out of it because they are actually part of Mana and SaGa series. Also, left out remakes because it would have been too much. Lets just say that FF4 on SNES and FF4 on the DS is enough of a same game to fit into the same poll item.

Other than those, most of it is there I guess.

Marona
04-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Final Fantasy 4...nuff said

Charon
04-13-2009, 11:35 PM
Oh man this is tricky. I'm gonna have to take a couple of days to mull over the pros and cons of FFs 1, 4, 7 and 8 before making my decision.

Zedie9
04-14-2009, 12:28 AM
:) Thanks Kilu. I'd been tempted to ask you to allow for more votes (maybe the Top 3?), but in the end decided that the agony of choosing one game was more fun! :evillaugh:

WalrusMongler
04-14-2009, 02:48 AM
Who here picked 12. I am very angry at you (but I still love you ;D), that game was horrible. The story was so-so, the hunts were a good addition until the last couple of hunts with Penumbra and what not, having to collect all those black orbs. Oh, and there's," Hi I'm Vaan, I'm the main character but not really because I am not good at anything, am not important and kind of resemble Alladin!" The game didn't really hook me in like all of the others. It took me years to beat it because I would get so over it I had to stop playing for many months. The gambits were kind of lame too, but I guess they had to change it up due to the new fighting style (which I was OK on...). And they should have fixed that uber spear deal, the game just gets really unfair when everyone in the party wields one. The Quickenings were a bad addition, at first you were like,"Oh, how cool, I can kill monsters really easy!" But then later on in the game you find out you really need your MP instead of gambling with the MP devouring Quickenings. You could get lucky and decimate everything or you could get unlucky and lose all your MP and not have anything to heal with during a boss fight. Most of the characters were pretty ugly too.

Anyways, FF8 for sure. Just love the idea behind the gardens, sorceresses, weapon upgrades, the card game (<3 because you can actually use the cards for a greater purpose then just the game itself), story/plot development (romance :D!), characters, GF/picking what abilities to learn, nice feel to it/gave me a happy feeling, music, the whole kitten kaboodle. I could go on for years, but alas, I will not.

Next in line was definitely FFX, but since it's not my main choice, I won't waste your time talking about it.

But I will waste your time with this. Sorry not FF7, just wasn't into the whole gloominess, bad graphics, having one of my characters die on me, difficulty navigating throughout the maps, inbred chocobos, and I'm Cloud but not really, I was a Soldier but no not really, I was actually Zack but Cloud also, I'm really confused and am now in a wheelchair :confused:. The last fight was rather disappointing too. But, as with all Final Fantasies, I LOVED the music. Bonus characters were good too (Vincent and Yuffie (cooler)<3). Not saying this game was bad, it's just not as good but it is understandable.

I love all Final Fantasies. Have beaten all of them excluding FFXI, because it doesn't count.

Kilu
04-14-2009, 06:56 AM
But I will waste your time with this. Sorry not FF7, just wasn't into the whole gloominess, bad graphics, having one of my characters die on me, difficulty navigating throughout the maps, inbred chocobos, and I'm Cloud but not really, I was a Soldier but no not really, I was actually Zack but Cloud also, I'm really confused and am now in a wheelchair :confused:.
xD xD That's probably the best description of FF7 I have ever heard. :D



Also, I picked FF12.
It's the greatest FF game ever. Story is solid, and for once it's not some silly love story with a fancy villain, it's politics and shit, and that's awesome, the world of Ivalice is awesome, the graphics are great, music is superb, voice acting is spot on (very important), and the battle mechanics is great and fresh (also important).

Ah, what a great game.

Charon
04-14-2009, 07:16 AM
Rofl. Someone give WalrusMongler rep points for that funny FF7 speech. I'd do it myself but for the stupid sharing it around limit. >_< Seriously, the limit is a little too restrictive when you can only give someone rep like once before it kicks in. :(

Very funny. :) But still. I like FF7 despite those reasons, for these reasons.

Materia system.
I like how each bit of materia had its own experience level especially early in the game when you tend to swap your highest level 'all' around depending on which fights you're in. :) I'm quite sad and loved watching my materia grow, even moreso when I eventually discovered the might of the Master Materia.

Manga chic.
Regardless of which characters you love or hate you can't deny that the game had a very cool cast. Vincent is without a doubt one of the coolest and then there's the Marmite of Sephiroth (you either love him or hate him).

Mini games.
Ok, ok, so FF9 turned up later with Choco Hot n Cold and even before that 8 had Triple Triad. But before both of those games existed FF7 gave us G-bike and snowboarding. BADASS! Cloud spent many hours in that wheelchair while I took Cid and Tifa snowboarding. ;)

Cid Highwind.
Coolest incarnation yet. What attitude, and in the Playstation version, what language! Offensive and hilarious.

Limit breaks.
Oh come on. The Omnislash. It is pretty badass. :P

Emerald Weapon.
Now that is a decent optional boss-fight. I have NEVER killed emerald weapon. Oh the shame. :(

Rufus Shinra getting his come uppance.
Booya! Take that ya ginger twat. (Sorry ginger people ¬¬)

Crossdressing.
Snigger. :P

Yeah it had flaws. But the above are all things that make it good and just about make up for the pointlessness of Knights of the Round and the disappointing weakness of the final boss fight.

Locke Cole
04-14-2009, 10:31 AM
It was a tough decision. Yes, theres the obvious love for FF6, but I am also a big fan of Tactics, and 12 was also good, even though I never got down to finishing it. FF4 and FF1 are also on my list of favs. Oh oh oh what to do?!

In the end, Final Fantasy 6 is the reason behind my primary online name, and has been a long time favourite, so it won my vote. Loved the characters, loved the storyline, loved the gameplay. Loved playing it over again. Loved leveling my characters to 99 with all the spells and such. Overall, it was just top notch for me.

As I said, many seconds, would have made multiple votes if allowed. :p But yes, in the end.. FF6!

Marona
04-15-2009, 08:42 PM
It was a tough decision. Yes, theres the obvious love for FF6, but I am also a big fan of Tactics, and 12 was also good, even though I never got down to finishing it. FF4 and FF1 are also on my list of favs. Oh oh oh what to do?!

In the end, Final Fantasy 6 is the reason behind my primary online name, and has been a long time favourite, so it won my vote. Loved the characters, loved the storyline, loved the gameplay. Loved playing it over again. Loved leveling my characters to 99 with all the spells and such. Overall, it was just top notch for me.

As I said, many seconds, would have made multiple votes if allowed. :p But yes, in the end.. FF6!

Oh so that explains why your user is locke cole!Because you dream of being like him and being awesome and since ff6 is your favorite game you just wanna be your favorite character!Even if it means slapping a ho :P

I like FF6 though too...for the last pixelated game,it was great.

WalrusMongler
04-15-2009, 09:23 PM
FF6 is actually pretty fun, i'm currently playin that one right now. I'm currently in the part of the game right after the espers get released but are getting captured and stuff blows up and destruction rains down on the world. The part after that where you hafta find all of your teammies to overthrow kefka!

Zedie9
04-16-2009, 01:10 AM
:amazed: Locke, I didn't know you've been going around slapping hos!

Locke Cole
04-22-2009, 05:34 AM
:amazed: Locke, I didn't know you've been going around slapping hos!

I did what? :wacky:

Zedie9
04-22-2009, 10:19 AM
:) I was running with Marona's comment. :D

Elhaym van Houten
05-02-2009, 03:32 PM
OMG, this is a tough decision...

FF1 was ok, just plain as bread.

FF2 was also nice, but not really spectacular either.

FF3 I only played the first quarter, so I can't judge that.

FF4, I really liked the story - except that everything just dissolved into sweet harmony in the end.

FF5 was awesome, loved it so much I played it in Japanese twice.

FF6 was absolutely brilliant, got me hooked to RPGs, played it maybe four times? Ach, to be back in school and have that much time...

FF7 was also great, because of the materia system and the dark, sterile style... always reminded me of the Ruhrgebiet, a big industrial area close by. Well, in the end it turned out to be one of those love-hate things :p.

FF8 I played about 1/2, then it got boring...or, maybe I just lost interest. Had expected more of it.

FF9 was a lot of fun - a bit like watching a good Disney movie :). I just didn't like Khuja's motives.

FF10 was like a lot of girls I know - darn good looking but really boring. And the voice acting was really crappy.

FFX-2 - never really played, though it is sitting on my shelf somewhere.

FF12 - left it somewhere in the last third, because I went on exchange. Haven't picked up on it again. Was fun to play, but the story didn't really impress me, as well as the character interaction. For all the gorgeous 3D graphics, it seemed a bit flat.

FF Tactics - really awesome, intriguing story, great characters...guess this is one of the games I would return to in 20 years and actually see why I enjoyed gaming so much :D.

FF Tactics Advance - disappointing compared to the prequel, ok on its own, nothing spectacular.

FF mystic Quest - decent and ok, nothing special.

So, I think it is a really close tie between 6, 9 and Tactics...

Charon
05-02-2009, 04:36 PM
OMG, this is a tough decision...

FF1 was ok, just plain as bread.

FF2 was also nice, but not really spectacular either.

FF3 I only played the first quarter, so I can't judge that.

FF4, I really liked the story - except that everything just dissolved into sweet harmony in the end.

FF5 was awesome, loved it so much I played it in Japanese twice.

FF6 was absolutely brilliant, got me hooked to RPGs, played it maybe four times? Ach, to be back in school and have that much time...

FF7 was also great, because of the materia system and the dark, sterile style... always reminded me of the Ruhrgebiet, a big industrial area close by. Well, in the end it turned out to be one of those love-hate things :p.

FF8 I played about 1/2, then it got boring...or, maybe I just lost interest. Had expected more of it.

FF9 was a lot of fun - a bit like watching a good Disney movie :). I just didn't like Khuja's motives.

FF10 was like a lot of girls I know - darn good looking but really boring. And the voice acting was really crappy.

FFX-2 - never really played, though it is sitting on my shelf somewhere.

FF12 - left it somewhere in the last third, because I went on exchange. Haven't picked up on it again. Was fun to play, but the story didn't really impress me, as well as the character interaction. For all the gorgeous 3D graphics, it seemed a bit flat.

FF Tactics - really awesome, intriguing story, great characters...guess this is one of the games I would return to in 20 years and actually see why I enjoyed gaming so much :D.

FF Tactics Advance - disappointing compared to the prequel, ok on its own, nothing spectacular.

FF mystic Quest - decent and ok, nothing special.

So, I think it is a really close tie between 6, 9 and Tactics...

If I may... :)

FF1. In the game's defence, it may be plain as bread, but that simplicity is part of its appeal. And of course, at the time, it saved what was an ailing company, ensuring that years down the line we were given the awesome later installments we all know, love, hate and squabble over. Personally I only played the psx revamped version but I can honestly say FF1, for me, stands out as one of the better titles. The simplistic class system, the buying of spells, the mid-game 'upgrade' and some rather beautiful music. Would i be going wrong to say it set an early standard?

FF8. I feel this one gets underrated for being so very different from previous FF titles, not to mention the overly emo main character. I think it deserves more respect than it gets. The music wasn't amazing but there were some great tracks (Man with the machine gun, for example). The cut scenes were rather spectacular too. I remember seeing that opening gunblade fight on a demo disc and just watching it over and over again. And for all its ball-busting complexity, the junction system was at least original and interesting as a concept. Also scores major points for one of the better mini games in "Triple Triad", bested only by Choco Hot 'n' Cold in my opinion.

FF9. I loved FF9 for its return to an FF1 style where each character had their own unique talents and its quite cartoony feel. I agree though, Kuja was just too lame to be taken seriously. Sadly FF9 just veers off course near the end. The middle and the Choco Hot N Cold mini game are by far the best bits. Bonus points for Zorn and Thorn as comic relief characters. Extra bonus points for the party splitting section. I love being forced to break my regular party formation on occasion, as long as it isn't overdone.

Tactics I think I've moaned about enough. I guess I'm alone in thinking this a very sub-par game, badly planned and offering a mediocre playing experience.

Nice to see you around though. ^^

silverDistortioN
05-04-2009, 11:57 AM
FF1 is one of my favorites. It didn't quite have the character development of, say, FF7, but it was expansive and complex nonetheless, especially considering its contemporaries (eg. Dragon Quest 1, fuckin' Hydlide). It offers gameplay characteristics that no longer seem to be available in modern RPG's (like using weapons/armor as items and casting lit2 on all the enemies... which I thought was awesome) as well as plenty of other things that developers continue to borrow (can anyone remember airships before FF1?).

And I consider FF2 absolutely spectacular, except for the totally lackluster battle mechanics.

Ah, hell, I guess I'll go through them all.

FF3: Okay, enjoyed the job system. I might consider the gameplay the best of the NES FF's (I liked FF1 better, but I can see the argument). However, I don't recall the storyline being anything special.

FF4: I agree with you, Elly. Great up to the point where everybody suddenly comes back to life and lives happily ever after. (ZOMG SPOILER)

FF5: I agree again. Another one of my personal favorites.

FF6: Didn't quite get as much out of it as I was expecting to. I blame the hype.

FF7: Loved it.

FF8: I've only finished the first disc, but I'm willing to say that I don't care for the draw system all that much.

FF9: I want to give this another playthrough, but I can't find all my discs. I only played it once, and the whole time I was expecting it to become a little more grown-up, I guess.

FFT: I played it once... found the writing stale and skipped the story... Played it again... found the writing stale and stopped playing. Third time's the charm, maybe. I really liked the battle system, but I found certain aspects very unbalanced (namely the Mathematician... and I don't remember liking the way death was handled.)

FFTA: I thoroughly enjoyed this game. I'll admit it was childlike and easy, but it wasn't as broken as FFT. I do prefer the 3D battlegrounds of FFT, however.

I still need to get to the PS2 games. I have FF12 in the other room, but I haven't really touched it. >.>

Charon
05-04-2009, 04:25 PM
Good point about FF9. It does have a slightly 'chibi' feel to it. Still, you should play it, because Choco Hot n Cold is great fun. And also to fight Ozma. Not many rpgs have one of those completely unfair boss fights (he can hit for more damage than you have HP so defeating him is largely luck of the draw).

The draw system/junction system for FF8 was interesting as it encourages you to conserve spells at lower levels, where casting them will actually reduce your stats. Once you get high level though you should be able to junction fairly naff spells in great number to most stats. Still, it was worked out so the most useful spells (aura, curaga, shield etc) are the ones that most benefit when junctioned, and that cunning use of GF combinations is required to maximise each character's potential. You're also given three random party members with which to fight the final boss making for an interesting fight unless you simply wish to let them die to be replaced by their stronger brethren. Sadly though the game was kinda exploitable in many areas so the final boss was pretty easy if you know what you're doing. Zell's limit break alone can devastate even the toughest boss if your fingers are fast enough. I still think 8 was underrated.

silverDistortioN
05-04-2009, 06:54 PM
I liked the idea of the junction system. What I didn't like was that the optimum solution was to draw 100 of each spell for each character. I had trouble seeing drawing as anything more than grinding.

WalrusMongler
05-05-2009, 12:48 AM
I liked the idea of the junction system. What I didn't like was that the optimum solution was to draw 100 of each spell for each character. I had trouble seeing drawing as anything more than grinding.

That's true, but the thing I liked about the whole 100 drawing thing was you could beef out your characters. But what I liked even more was the leveling system, how the enemies level with you so you cant just completely dominate. Even though i could usually get squalls ultimate weapon before the first disc ended.The whole drawing thing was kind of cool but then kind of lame, because magic was directly related to your stats I would never use it. Nevertheless, I love the game.

Charon
05-05-2009, 06:51 AM
There was a little bit of a grind feel to it, but it never took all that long to get 100 of something. Curagas and ultimas could be drawn whilst levelling up anyway. And then there were cards and stones to refine into such spells. And you didn't *need* 100. Sure that's optimum but not necessary at all.
Walrusmongler. I used magic a bit at the start, when cures are needed and an ultima can blow the enemy away, but after discovering the Seifer exploit I admit I just stocked everyone up on Auras and used Zell's limit to crush anyone who gave me any trouble. A ten second Zell rush for me is an eternity. :P And if you take Selphie as your other party member she has full cure on her limit list. Magic is only related to a stat if you set it as such. If there's a spell you want to be able to cast then just don't junction it. :S Besides, I did like how such a system causes you to conserve early magic rather than relying on it and to take every opportunity to stock up, often risky business. I also like that the draw could be used to cast, turning an enemy's spells against them without draining your own resources.
I think everyone plays FF8 differently. My bro mainly relied on boosted GFs where I was totally reliant on limits most of the time. :P

Kilu
05-05-2009, 09:18 AM
FFT: I played it once... found the writing stale and skipped the story... Played it again... found the writing stale and stopped playing. Third time's the charm, maybe. I really liked the battle system, but I found certain aspects very unbalanced (namely the Mathematician... and I don't remember liking the way death was handled.)They retranslated the PSP version, if you end up trying it a third time, try that version if you can. I haven't played much of FFT either, but I do remember how junk the writing was on the psx version.

I liked the idea of the junction system. What I didn't like was that the optimum solution was to draw 100 of each spell for each character. I had trouble seeing drawing as anything more than grinding.This is exactly what I thought. So a lot of the times I ended up weighing down the action button on draw command and going for a coffee. And when I came back it still wasn't finished. Gah. Such a game killer for me. It also became quite easy as soon as I noticed that Squall's limit break could easily be abused. After that I never healed the dude at all, just kept him on yellow and limit broke the entire game. It was a bit silly.

WalrusMongler
05-05-2009, 02:07 PM
Charon i gotta agree with your everyone plays it differently statement. For me I normally don't try to make it as easy as possible on myself because where is the fun in that. Sure if I'm fighting omega weapon and I just want to kick some serious ass, Aura on Zell and I win! Or refine cards into hero elixirs. Lool, the GFs..I can do this thing with my hand where I kind of tense it up and vibrate it so i can get like 5x more clicks then your average person. Makes killing some T rexaurs in the beginning training area cake.

I also like to kind of switched up my characters. I would normally use Squall Rinoa and Zell, but sometimes switch it up with the lamer characters (Quistis, Selphie, and Irvine)

Charon
05-06-2009, 07:04 AM
Irvine is so not lame. ¬¬ His limit break is up there with Squall's.
Also, I do that hand tense spasm technique. ^^ it always amazes me that no one else I know can pull it off, guess we're an elite clique. :P

WalrusMongler
05-07-2009, 01:27 PM
Haha it's so fun. If my friends and I are playing like Mario Party or one of those "Just a bunch of mini-games for a game" games, and one of those click as fast as you can to win things come up, they just get angry and don't even try. It is pretty handy (literally and figuratively) I must say.

silverDistortioN
05-07-2009, 02:11 PM
In normal gameplay, twitch spamming works well for me, but with certain RPG's and most minigames... like the Mortal Kombat diamond breaking exercise... I get the most speed out of alternating my index finger and middle finger over the same button. It's competitive with turbo controllers! Well, maybe not 100%, but it definitely has a massive edge over the thumb.

WalrusMongler
05-08-2009, 06:28 PM
Tuuurrrbboooo contrrrooollleeerrrrrssssssss pssssshhhhhwwaaaaaaaaaaa!! I've actually never played that game...