The State Of The World

[Tonedeaf]

i really don't want this to trn into an arguement but for kai's sake i think that this thread should be started this one's for you bud!

now my standing on the state of the world and i know that kai shares this view is that at the moment (no offence to the past leaders of the world)but i think that thw ppl who are making the decisions for the world now are completely incompatent and that they are more that happy to sit back and get rich....ESCECIALLy mr bush

[BAMAToNE]

>> Moved thread to the Serious Discussions forum.

[Pezito]

Well I can agree... Only it's not just Bush, but thousands of men and women behind, around and before him ; in all countries, all cultures. The problem is, we elect as our representants persons who have mostly nothing in common with us. :wonder: Do you know of any politician who's been through insecurity, unemployment, failure at school, empty pockets ? Do you know any of them who would recognize, honestly, that he doesn't know s*** about such things ? :)

The concept of hierarchical pyramids really makes sense, as the higher you get, the further you are from the people. There sure are good politicians, who want to improve things for everyone and don't care much about leaving a trace in history... But those generally stay at the lower levels of politics, heh. Looks like most people aren't exactly *free* to become, like, president of their country... In order to rule your co-citizens' lives, you need to be what most of them aren't (and will most probably never be) : rich and powerful. Total non-sense ! XD

But then, it seems to me that the people keep this system going. If your country is to be represented by one person only, (s)he should as well be impressive, eh ? Why would people choose the guy next door as their leader - even if he's skilled at politics. Sadly, people kept the habit of venerating golden idols ; be they popstars, actors, politicians, sport champions... We all know how much money they make, and how ridiculous it is that one person alone shall be that rich ; we all know that spending a fraction of these billions for better causes could do a lot of good to those who truely need it ; yet we would never "steal" these few abnormally rich people, because of the same principles of freedom and blah blah... I guess most people have the secret dream of becoming one of the few happy riches one day, so nobody wants to stop that dream by accepting things aren't right this way.

Oh well, I've typed and typed and I don't even know where I was going anymore. Bah ! :D

[Tonedeaf]

http://www.truthout.org is a great site for stuff like this

[Locke]

I concur with Pezito's statement quite fully. Most of the modern leaders of the world right now are not good leaders. Bush is ... well he's bush. Paul Martin, our own prime minister, is right now in the process of being pushed out of office with a vote of non-confidence which will cause a christmas election. Voting will be right about christmas-time, to be precise. France's prime minister (if I remember correctly, anyways) was recently absent from the country during the riots caused (mostly) by second generation frenchmen. 3 or 4 of the European countries just started riots that are just getting under control now, and the world is just showing signs that all hell is going to break loose soon. China also had a major chemical plant explode just now too, which wouldn't surprise me at all if it was terrorists (or freedom fighters, whichever you want to call them).

The world is in a very sad state at the moment, methinks.

[kai]

In my opinion it is about time too. Did they really think everything could just proceed without major incident? Maybe they thought that they could do whatever they wanted and let the next generation take care of it. Whatever the case maybe, I agree that all hell's about to break loose, and in my opinion IT'S ABOUT BLOODY TIME!! http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smash.gif

[Locke]

There is still some places in the world where things are in good state, but if we don't act soon then it'll end up being too late for these last refuges. Thank god Alaska is safe for the time being from Bush.

[kai]

From Bush perhaps, but not from the effects cause by human existence. Hundreds of polar bears are drowning because the ice has melted to the point the polar bears can no longer make land. A bear can swim maybe 100 miles but not 400, causing many to die before making it to solid ground/ice.

[Locke]

Yeah, but that's more from the NWT, Yukon, and Nunavit that the polare bears are dying. I haven't heard much about Alaskan polar bears dying. Though I did hear that a city closed down it's dump due to 6 polar bears that were living near it eating the food that got thrown out. If memory serves, they closed the dump so the bears would enter hibernation, as they were still awake now due to them eating food straight out of the dump.

[kai]

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/100305EB.shtml

I've only heard of it in Alaska, however I'm sure it's happening in other places, even if they haven't reported it yet. The Arctic is one big ice cube. I'm gonna be pretty agrivated if polar bears and penguins are wiped out. :realmad:

[Tonedeaf]

http://www.veritas.20m.com/

i think that this is a perfect thing to put in this thread

[Pezito]

Thanks for this link, Tonedeaf.

Although I've become bored of all the "expert analysis" and "Illuminati coalition" theories about 9/11 (and decided that all I know is I know nothing), I've ended up reading most of that web page and... Man, even if they probably are wrong about some elements, now I definitely think a lot of what they say is right.

I could accept the whole official story being a bit weird or incoherent, and blame that on politics, strategics and secrecy... But now I think it's much more than that. And much worse. :shame:

[oneforthelord]

Well, you do realise that when you want to believe something, you tend to disregard evidence to the contrary and jump on evidence that supports your beliefs...

The points he makes are interesting, but well, who am I to judge whether what he says is the whole truth or not? I'd rather leave it at "don't know, but I'll be wary"

[Tonedeaf]

but you do have to admit that the points that he makes are valid i mean there is no way that the gurders in the towers were melted away by jet fuel...i have asked many ppl who have been welders for many years and a few ppl who are fabricators and their is no way that a fuel of any kind let alone the gasoline that is carried in a 757 which is just regular gasoline which has a much higher octane count than regular unleaded gas will get hot enough when combusted to melt steel i mean if it did then the fact is that cars would not work they would simply melt becuase the engines in todays cars are only made of aluminum albeit most of impurities are taken out and steel is aded but it just doesn't work