What's the World Coming too??

[kai]

So it's a thread not about everything. People, animals, cities, cars, what have you, etc . . . O_O

Basically right now we live in an age of choice and change. What we decide now will ultimatly change the future of humaninty. Pollutions high but at a point we can still make some change, crime and terrorism is high but we still have the ability to talk, water levels in Katuma River are killing hippos yet we have technology to help them. So what choices will we make?

[Locke]

We've also got this thing called the Kyoto Protocol that would help prevent GHG emissions (GHG=greenhouse gases), but no country in the world is taking it seriously, most of all the United States (not the fault of the good people in it, just the fault of the capitalist idiot's in charge).

We also have the joy and fun of a global society that pollutes the world, overfishes the oceans, overpopulates portions of it, lets diseases run rampant through them. In my opinion, the world is in alot of trouble right now with it's current capitalist regime.

[kai]

It's a shame really but BAH hopefully we won't be around long enough to see the error of our ways :evilgrin:

Another thing wrong about society is the age kids think they are mature. Mini Britney Spears and 12 year old gangsta's. Are there no parents anymore?

[Locke]

I agree. And the whole 12 and 13 year olds getting pregnant. Not only is that way to young to get pregnant, that's to young to even start getting into that stuff, imo.

[kai]

Advaita Yoga: Non-dualistic philosophy of the Hindu Vedas. Man is not man, man is God.

And of course you have the general majority :

Dawmf: Experiencing the world, its values, and objects as real and permanent. Awareness being totally content in this state of consciousness.

[Locke]

Well really, there's no point in not being content in this time and place, we're stuck here for however many years of our lives, we may as well make the best of it. :thumbup: :D :thumbup:

[kai]

The term Dawmf is a little more than just being content with your existence. It's being content with your existence and the belief that you can't change the reality of it, not being able to think of your own beliefs just taking what life gives you and not making anything more of it than what it is.

[Locke]

Check out some of the writing at http://digistem.com then Kai, it's generally along those lines :thumbup:

[kai]

Very nice, if you google Clear White Light you'll find an assortment of pages you should find interesting. Most of them have to do with the unison of the spirit and the body. b

[Locke]

Cool. Will do. Soooooo, now that topics dead, what next Kai, what next.

[kai]

I dunno, I could easily throw in topics to keep the thread alive (dragging its broken legs leaving a trail of blood but still alive) but the thread's not called "what kai thinks the world is coming to" so if no one posts or hijacks it I'll prob just let it slip of the seen threads.

[Locke]

Sooo, the weather's messed up this year, eh :p

[kai]

Yeah, and yet no one really seems to care. People go on and on about how important it is and how dangerous global warming has the potential to be and yet . . . . . . . . :shame:

[Locke]

Hence the whole Day after tomorrow in the serious thread ;) Though I must concur, people do go on about it alot. How do they know that we're not just heading into another ice age? Or another tropical era. Who knows. The Kyoto protocol was a step in the right direction though.

[jetblue]

I have broken the pattern.

Humans will destroy the land eventually. But this is a water planet so it works out. I like yuffies idea,water prison. I would commit a crime,get sentenced there,lead a revolt,and proclaim the new principality of Aquanatica.

[Yuffie]

I knew it!!! I AM a genius!! I've solved a world crisis!! :amazed:

Although admitedly the world would be populated by criminals...but I'm still smart.

Another issue I thought I'd bring to mind is smoking. When we were in France, the English group signed a contract not to drink or smoke (everyone who drinks or smokes broke the contract but within reason and the group leader agreed to it) but the French and German groups were smoking like chimneys. :amazed:

The youngest people were about 15 and every time I saw them they had a cigarette in their hand. People complain about pollution and then turn themselves into mini-toxic factories, so what of that? O.o

[Locke]

15 is kinda young to be smoking like that. Mind you, I do know some people that have been smoking since they were 8... but still, that's really young. I myself smoke, but I didn't start till I was 17. Kids are getting into more and more at a younger age these days, and I don't like it :realmad:

[Yuffie]

One of the guys from the British group started smoking at about 10 but gave up a while ago after school started going badly and stuff so he learnt albeit the difficult way.

It is better to learn through suffering than never to learn. :)

[Pezito]

Bah, we cannot "kill the world" anyway... Anything dangerous we create, what do we get it from ? From the planet of course. :p We can only ruin our own civilization for a while, but Jurassic Park taught us that "life finds a way" ! :D Even toxic wastes can turn into food for some bacterias with time.

[Locke]

That is true, Life does find a way. Unless, of course, there's a big nuclear holocaust and the world cracks in two. That might make life have some trouble finding a way......

Then again, though, chance's are that a chunk of the earth with some bacteria on it would end up floating through space until it hit one of the other planets, and in another billion years or so we'd have life once more :D

Such is the way of life :p

[Lord Draud]

in short what is the world coming to? an end

[Locke]

But is it the complete end or just the end of an era.


There is constantly ends of era's throughout life. How are we supposed to know when the end is come or if it's just an end to that stage in our lives? That's what I'd really like to know.

[Yuffie]

An end of an era then after a couple of those the end of the world. :D

By which time we'll live in strange and slightly chillier climated planets! :amazed:

[Locke]

I guess, but regardless, it still sucks when an era is over :cry:. Makes people depressed and all that.

[Lord Draud]

who knows the mayens predicked alot of shitt hat happend but there calander never when past this last age, the plotted out 6000 years of the futur then just stoped and i don't think it was cause they got bord

[Locke]

Actually, it stopped because they realised that by then anything could happen and their calender would be hopelesly off. They may have predicted alot of stuff, but the global destruction was predicted for 2000 I believe. Meh, they're all dead anyways, so it's a moot point ;)

Note - The mayans were a great and all, but they're still just as dead.

[kai]

There's been a lot of speculation as to when the world would end. People have been trying to understand past prophecies for centuries and no one has been able to make an exact prediction as to when prophets said the world would end. The current "war on terrorism" however was predicted in many readings and some say that it would lead in a chain of events that would end human existence. All this however is simple speculation and in my opinion is cowplop. Might as well just see for ourselves what's going to happen rather than trying to understand past predictions that may or may not be true.

[tanisthalon]

I chose 'No'.
Why? You may ask...........
Well the way we are advancing, humanity will be changed by technology, we'll be more cybernetic than human in the coming centuries.
Resistance is futile! The remaining humanity will take the world with them to stop the cybenetic humans from been the great creator of life that they so desperately wanted to be.

http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/yeahrightsign.gif

[Locke]

Though it would be cool to have that war going on tanis ;)

I can't really see it happening though. There's too much outrage at anything biologically engineered right now for cybernetics to be anything but in the far future. Can't see it happening, at all.

[Yuffie]

Judging by the poll I'd say the fate of the world is pretty undecided. Ooh the irony. :p

[Lord Draud]

the mayan's forsaw there own distruction and they never predicted there end in 2000, that when the last last ended we still have one more age to go through til the end of time

[kai]

Over 50% of the United States of America's adult population is obese :evilgrin: Land of opportunity eh? The land of the double-chin more like it :smash: (j/j)

Seriously, what with the over weight populaton growing, smoking really doesn't seem all that healthy anymore.

[Tonedeaf]

humanity will never see the error of it's ways we are so dependant on the idea that we are a superior race that we think that we are the only thing that can "save the rain forest" or that "only you can prevent forest fires"

no that is all wrong we can't stop forest fires and it's us that is cutting down the gd rainforest....we're a virus, we go to some of the most beautiful places on earth and pave them to make a 4 lane highway and the complain that there are no birds left or that the racoons are getting into our garbage or that there's bears wandering into town WELL DUH THEY USED TO LIVE THERE so you shoot the bears beat the racoons to death and build new homes for the birds...well the wouldn't have had to be relocated or killed if we wern't here in the first place

and all the while when we're poluting the earth and destroying nature yes...like kai said we're all getting fat because we all just sit behind screens all day and we complain about gas prices when you can easily buy a bike which solves the above two problems some ppl yes they have to drive... fisherman for example...it's kind of hard to drag a boat behind a bike.. but the othere 95% of comuters just drive because it's convenient which means that there going to be calling on the government to lover tax or gas prices and everyones going oto go on strike well lets face it the government is corrupt all those old me do is sit there and wait for the pension to come they don't have to live here and they don't have to pay for gas all they have to do is go to work, make it look like there trying to do good and retire very whelthy ppl

[Locke]

humanity will never see the error of it's ways we are so dependant on the idea that we are a superior race that we think that we are the only thing that can "save the rain forest" or that "only you can prevent forest fires"

no that is all wrong we can't stop forest fires and it's us that is cutting down the gd rainforest....we're a virus, we go to some of the most beautiful places on earth and pave them to make a 4 lane highway and the complain that there are no birds left or that the racoons are getting into our garbage or that there's bears wandering into town WELL DUH THEY USED TO LIVE THERE so you shoot the bears beat the racoons to death and build new homes for the birds...well the wouldn't have had to be relocated or killed if we wern't here in the first place

and all the while when we're poluting the earth and destroying nature yes...like kai said we're all getting fat because we all just sit behind screens all day and we complain about gas prices when you can easily buy a bike which solves the above two problems some ppl yes they have to drive... fisherman for example...it's kind of hard to drag a boat behind a bike.. but the othere 95% of comuters just drive because it's convenient which means that there going to be calling on the government to lover tax or gas prices and everyones going oto go on strike well lets face it the government is corrupt all those old me do is sit there and wait for the pension to come they don't have to live here and they don't have to pay for gas all they have to do is go to work, make it look like there trying to do good and retire very whelthy pplHoly lack of grammatical correctness :amazed:. That entire last paragraph was a run-on sentance TD :p. No worries, it was a valid point. I have a bike, Kai has a bike, You use my bike more often then not, though you have your own. Mind you, non of us are obese either, but meh, life goes on eh :p

[Tonedeaf]

you know i am kind of an eco nut locke ...you know the whole deal where i freaked out at you for tearing the leaves off of trees?i just kind of got worked up is all....

[Locke]

Ah. I wouldn't say you freaked out at me, more of asked me not to do it again. And I haven't since (minus one or two lapses when drunk, we've talked about it :p) No worries TD, I understand.

[Tonedeaf]

still the world isn't going to end any time soon and when it does it is going to be a big big big bang

[Locke]

Not necessarily, it could be a quiet poof :p

[kai]

I don't think the world would "end", rather all life will be extinguished or the surface area of the planet won't support most life.

[Locke]

But by then we might also have the ability to colonize other planets. In fact, we may have that ability now, come to think of it :wonder:

[kai]

Maybe, not like the public would know anyways :lamesign:

[Locke]

How was that lame Kai. How. While your point was valid, the lame bit didn't really fit. I'll get you with a rusty coat hanger http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/finger.gif http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/mad.gif

[Tonedeaf]

rusty coat hanger...he's not pregnant!

[kai]

I remeber that :evilgrin:

I was using the lame sign when refferring to the fact that people wouldn't know anyways. The whole secrecy thing is lame. Simmer down locke, kinda paranoid aren't you? What do you think

SOME ONE IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU????

[Locke]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :amazed: :knockedout:

You knocked me out with fright you bastard :shame:

[kai]

:pirate: you see scaring people is a pirate thing to do. The world is full of pirates scaring people and stealing their money.

For example if you don't use our toothpaste you will loose your teeth.

That sound like a threat to me, I better use their toothpaste or I'll loose my teeth.

Crest . . . . bah damn pirates... . . .

[Tonedeaf]

and being at peace and having a sword is a ninja thing to do....don't start this again please

[silverDistortioN]

sorry, this is an old post, but... i just HAVE to point out how flagrantly wrong this statistic is:

Over 50% of the United States of America's adult population is obese :evilgrin: Land of opportunity eh? The land of the double-chin more like it :smash: (j/j)feel free to google for a real number, but christ... 50%? pisshaw, i say.

[Pezito]

Just checked : it's a good 30% nonetheless (a bit more for women) ; children also get a 30% rate. Something noticeable, also, is that it's in the USA that you find the biggest variations of obese people depending on their ethnic origins... Afro-american people have the highest percentage, then latino-americans, then err, caucasians ? white americans ? occidental americans ? you get the idea. XD

[kai]

"The number of adults who are overweight or obese has continued to increase, as shown in Table 1. Currently, 64.5 percent of U.S. adults, age 20 years and older, are overweight and 30.5 percent are obese."


Sorry guys, should be more careful using the word obese when referring to the overweight population.


(more fun facts about the overweight populace can be found at http://www.obesity.org)

[Locke]

Hmmm, I guess that you're accurate then Kai with the modification of saying merely overweight, not obese. Mind you, overweight could be the bulk of people that we know Kai. Meh, tis the way the world appears to be going, you know, the fat route.

[kai]

A BMI of 30 or more is considered obese and a BMI between 25 to 29.9 is considered overweight. BMI as most of you know is body mass index, which is calculated by dividing a person's body weight in kilograms by their height in meters squared.

[Locke]

Well, my BMI worked out to 22 :D Apparently I'm not obese at all :thumbup:

Incidently, it's height in inch's squared ;)

[kai]

That formula works as long as you square your height in meters then divide it into your weight in kg. I got 24, oh no I'm almost overweight whatever will I do?
:amazed:

[Locke]

Lose weight :evilgrin:

[Galthol]

The formula doesn't seem to be working for me. I either get 44 (which is way to much) or 0.024..... So neither seems to work. Oh well, I am 6ft and 130 lbs so I know I'm not overweight so...

[Locke]

And I will reiterate Galthol.... Lose Weight :evilgrin:


Actually, I worked your's out to an 18, so more appropriately you should put on some weight :shame:

[kai]

http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/obesity_what2.shtml

scroll down to the bottom of that page to get your bmi

[Galthol]

And I will reiterate Galthol.... Lose Weight :evilgrin:


Actually, I worked your's out to an 18, so more appropriately you should put on some weight :shame:
Well acording to Kai's my BMI is 14

[Locke]

6 feet and 130 pounds = 130/72(2) * 704.5 = 18 Galthol. Not 14. You're not completely skin and bone's I suppose ;)

[Galthol]

6 feet and 130 pounds = 130/72(2) * 704.5 = 18 Galthol. Not 14. You're not completely skin and bone's I suppose http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/wink.gif but have typed something wrong in Kai' link.

[Locke]

Meh, no worries. Your's does work out to 18 though, so no worries ;)

[kai]

Don't blame me for your mistakes, the formula is correct on the site.

[Pezito]

I think those calculations aren't worth much... And when they prove to be right, you generally know it already just by looking at the person. :) You're obese when you look rather spherical than elongated, simple as that !

Then again, I think the most important part about obesity isn't how you look, but how you live. Looks and standards change with time, what's sexy now was miserable a few centuries ago ; what's fat now was once thought of as wealthy. But there's one thing that doesn't change : the way obesity affects your health and physical possibilities... When you can't run more than 10 seconds, when going up stairs exhausts you, when chairs hurt you because you don't fit completely on them, when you can't lace your shoes because your belly's an obstacle - that's just biological evidence that something's wrong and that you could feel much better if you were thinner. Otherwise, if it doesn't really affect you physically or put your life expectancy in danger, it's just a matter of liking ; and maths have nothing to do with it. ^^

[kai]

Well the problem with that whole BMI formula is that it doesn't take into account, people have fat yes but they also have MUSCLE. I am one point from being overwheight and yet I can suck in my stomach almost enough to put my fist under my ribs . . . . . . I guess I should loose some weight http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Locke]

I tell ya Kai, me and you and our morbid obesity, eh :p

[kai]

An end!!

Sure we don't have to worry about global warming for a few decades (best case scenario that is) however with these earthquakes, hurricanes, mudslides, avian flu, and "holy war crap" going on I'd say the end is sooner than most would like to believe, even if it is simply the end of our current social structure and culture.

[Skikkles]

But seriously guys (and gals not particularly sure) would that be all so bad to totaly change the way society is run?

[Locke]

Personally, I don't think it would be a bad thing for society as a whole, but it damned well will set back our technological advances hundreds of years if society end's up being completely restructured for the continuing survival of the human race.

[Skikkles]

I think society needs a major overhaul on the way it is run and looked upon, look at it this way if grade 10 students are making points that disprove what Bush says,the controller of the worlds most powerful weapons, the world needs help or we're all in for some pretty fireworks soon!

[kai]

Soon, my friends, soon . . . . . . http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/curse.gif:bsod:http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/argue.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/bash.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/chair.gif

[Locke]

I dunno how soon that'll happen, but the world will be going downhill really really quick when that happens. I don't think it's gonna be a good place to be living in then :(

[kai]

I say within a decade something crucial will happen and society will change as we know it, if it's not Bush's war, it'll be the avian flu, if not that then the current natural disasters occuring, if not that then something else, world's not in too good a shape right now if you've been keeping up with the times.

[Locke]

Yeah, used to be the worst you'd here about would be a train wreck somewheres that killed a hundred people or so. Now we get quakes, deadly virus', storms, you name it, it's happening.

[Geosgaeno]

the world is going a little crazy over in good ol england again, piggy banks, the stuff you put your pennies in for charities etc have been BANNED, the reason is sorta ludicris, they have been banned incase it offends the muslims, surley this is ridiculous???? what do you guys think bout thathttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Locke]

Seriously, they banned piggy banks in case it might offend some muslims?

[kai]

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!? PIGGY Banks banned? FIRST CRAZY FROG AND NOW THIS!!!! WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TO http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/mad2.gif

[Locke]

An interesting end Kai, an interesting end ;)

[Galthol]

O_O Piggy Banks? O_O

[kai]

I suppose we'll be banning wood soon because that's what Jesus's cross was made out of? Common people for one your in England, it's your culture not theirs, if they don't like it then they don't have to go to england.

Countries havn't developed their own culture over the centuries to have them tossed aside for political correctness. If you can't keep an open mind about other's then don't go to their country. SIMPLE AS THAT :smash:

[Geosgaeno]

you know what your talking about Kai, 100% agree.

[Locke]

I also concur there. That's a sentiment I agree with, as in Canada we've currently gotten into a large argument with the muslim's for them wanting to implement Sharia, a Muslim law that, more or less, undercuts most of woman's rights. We're currently in the middle of huge arguments in Ontario over whether the Sharia should apply in Canada or not. Personally I disagree rather strongly with the idea's behind sharia, and for that matter, as Kai stated. We have our own culture here, and Sharia has no place in our court of laws. If Muslims were to practice it on their own, then there would be no issue. But Canada has it's own law's, and women's rights are important to us. And if there's a conflict, then by God I don't believe we should change our law's to something that's against our constitution.

[Tonedeaf]

their banning what? piggy banks... honestly now...i can make sence of it offending muslims if it was say a cow for example but a pig...come on PPL!

[Locke]

The cow is Hindu, I believe. Pig's to a muslim is something like taking a picture of Jesus and putting the caption "Jesus is my homeboy" underneath of it. While most people find that funny, those heavily religious would be offended by it.

[Tonedeaf]

i still think that people who are deply religious would have to find the humour in it...however we don't have jesus piggy banks but i stil think that they wouldn't be offended by a juses piggy bank

[Locke]

It's the idea behind it, not the fact it's a piggy bank. I think it's something about defacing a religious icon (or, if it's something about pig's being unclean, then really it's completely pointless because a Muslim person does not need to buy a piggy bank.)

Personally I think this could be the latest set of Muslim attacks on Christianity.

[kai]

Perhaps we should move to their country and do a little North American colonisation of our own. They want to come over here and try and change our culture, fine we'll go there and change theirs the way we've always done . . . . . . . . get off our land you damn foreigners, accept our culture or die. (ok maybe a little dramatic but the general idea is there, and I guess from what bush is trying to do now . . . . nevermind)

[Tonedeaf]

LOL about pigs being unclean WTFwow that's a shock to my brain a pig isn't clean...THEY ROLL AROUND IN THEIR OWN S#!T

[Locke]

LOL about pigs being unclean WTFwow that's a shock to my brain a pig isn't clean...THEY ROLL AROUND IN THEIR OWN S#!TYes, but I mean they might consider the meat to be unholy, etc.

[Tonedeaf]

i think that i would be happier to knwo that my food rolled around in it's own excrements it i knew that was what they were suposed to do ... if it didn't i think that there was something wrong with the animal and therefore wouldn't eat the meat i mean if i saw a pig that was a neat freak i don't think that i would eat it....i get the idea but i just thought that i should interject this little thing....and i hate being a dancer

[Locke]

Speaking of Dancer's, I see that you became one TD. Meh, you'll be there till 250 or so post's ;)

[kai]

Ok there is no denying global warming and the harsh effects that come with it, and yet no one seems to be concerned http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/confused.gif That is what I don't understand, everyone is more focused on their own lives completely disregarding humanities future generations, which at his rate don't seem to have a hope in hell of a good life.

So what are RPGN's members thoughts of the impending doom now lurking over our children's children? Do you care, or is it that until someone with power impliments some changes there's nothing you feel you can do to actually make an impact?

[kai]

They're coming, it's all over now . . . . . .


http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_01/3.eco_110305S2_sm.jpg

[Tonedeaf]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!pig pens alas

[kai]

Here's something interesting, the UN wants the US to give Iraq as much as 208 million dollars for contracting work from 2-3 years ago. Now it might just be me but it seems the people who currently run this planet are a little stunned. Are they blind to the sufferning in the world? I simply just don't understand . . . .

Here's the article :
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/110505F.shtml

[Tonedeaf]

that pi$$es me off.... it's so stupid how bush is running the whole world into the ground and he's just sitting back getting rich off of it ... it's rediculous

i hope that if the world ends tomarrow that he will be the first to have his head eaten

[kai]

Well it's good to know Bush is hated no matter what part of the world he thinks he has allies in . .. .

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/110705D.shtml

[BAMAToNE]

>> Moved thread to Serious Discussions forum. (Should have been done long ago, sorry.)

[kai]

One good bit of news today :

Environmentalists have won a temporary victory after Republican moderates forced leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives to abandon a controversial plan to open up an Alaskan wildlife refuge to oil drilling.

The rest of the article can be found at :
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/10/arctic_congress051110.html

(sorry if many of my posts are basically just links to news articles but I read the news a lot and in my opinion most of these issues are well suited for this thread)

[Tonedeaf]

here's one for ya http://saudi-binladin-group.com/

[kai]

Somehow I figured any thread moved into the serious discussions portion of the forum would die. It is too out of the way, though I guess only a few of us posted on this topic anyways . . . . . I suppose it will die with the other lost threads. So long my friend http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-canada.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-fi.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-fr.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-aust.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-uk.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-jp.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/flag-usa.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/bawl.gif

[Locke]

The thread will only die if people stop posting interesting things in it.

This article caught my eye.

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/102505EB.shtml

[kai]

Perhaps it should die, after all the name of the thread is "What's the World Coming too??"

[kai]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/111905B.shtml

God Bless the USA http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/tophat.gif, not only do they make the rich richer but now they are trying to kill off the poor. I suppose it makes sense, the poor don't pay much into taxes and usually require aid from the government, so if we cut off some of their food supply many will hopefully pass-on and we can use that food money to better fill our pockets. Motion approved 217-215.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smash.gif

[Locke]

Wow, I gotta say, the current government in the state's is fairly messed up. Meh, tis the way of things, I suppose.

[kai]

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/112205EA.shtml

For those lacking the time to read the article it simply says that we are still kicking natives off their land, only now it is in the name of the enviroment. Natives be damned we are looking out for those silver backed gorillas.

[Tonedeaf]

i know this is flash but it is very well done


http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

[kai]

Americans Not Capable of Understanding
According to Dr. Carmona, any reduction in rates of obesity demands a change in Americans' behavior. However, he deplores the fact that too many of them are not in a position to understand medical terms and their physician's advice. Moreover, the head of public health deems that political reforms could have little impact, since, according to him, common-sense medical decisions cannot be dictated by the law.

I read this in an article today and thought it might start an interesting discussion. Should the law include common-sense medical decisions? It seems a lot of people are not capable of taking care of themselves, should someone step in?

Edit : I guess I'll put in some facts just to try and show how severe people say the issue is.

What is Obesity?
Obesity is a disease that affects nearly one-third of the adult American population (approximately 60 million). The number of overweight and obese Americans has continued to increase since 1960, a trend that is not slowing down. Today, 64.5 percent of adult Americans (about 127 million) are categorized as being overweight or obese. Each year, obesity causes at least 300,000 excess deaths in the U.S., and healthcare costs of American adults with obesity amount to approximately $100 billion.

http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/obesity_what2.shtml

[SeymourGuado]

Humans will enivitably destroy themselves or be destroyed. Either way, whether through war, famine, climate changes or external factors like asteroid impacts etc, we are destined to go extinct sooner or later.

I personally beliveve the way in which we do finally go will be through war.

I can't see the human race lasting another 1000 years, no matter what. I actually give it less than 200 years.

Humans have no proper leader, noone with a balanced and overall control, in the end, our own folly will be our undoing.

Life will not all be destroyed, its practicly impossible for humans to wipe the entire life population of the world out...so in the end, the ones going for good for sure are us.

you wait and see:)

[kai]

I'm sorry but I don't trust them with anything capable of cutting hair let alone vaporising cities :knockedout: .

Iran defiant ahead of UN ruling

Iran will not bow to outside pressure to abandon its nuclear technology, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4949914.stm

[SeymourGuado]

Undoubtedly that is the correct and sane opinion Kai :)

[Locke]

Iran defiant ahead of UN ruling

Iran will not bow to outside pressure to abandon its nuclear technology, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said.

But with countries like Isreal that also have nuclear capacity I can't see Iran stopping, as they will see it as a country about the same level as them having it, so national pride will make them continue to process the uranium, even at the threat of having the US invade (even though nobody else is supporting the US in these plans, we all know it's coming)

[SeymourGuado]

US won't invade, much more difficult than iraq and US stretched at the moment. They will simply be bombed to hell...Israel will also be sending bombers, at this arte I give it less than 2 years

[Locke]

Yeah, they will definently be involved though. Granted, even if it's Isreal invading it's basically just a mini-us going on the offensive anyways, so that's not really that much different. Should be interesting to see how it plays out, regardless.

[kai]

Honestly I don't care all that much about the overseas conflicts. At them moment I consider myself to be in a pretty secluded part of the world. I know that we won't go uneffected by world events forever but at the moment we can relax, and that's exactly what I plan to do. :peace:

Edit : I know there is the concern of innocent lives being lost but I have two view on this :

1. No one is completly innocent
2. Life is over rated