Named Threads™ (F.R.A.T.)

[Zedie9]

:D My first question is whether we shall consider all old regulars to still be regulars... Silver and Kyari both have Named Threads already, so one may assume them to be regulars. Perhaps we will have to petition them for entry? :knockedout: And perhaps we should agree what constitutes an 'approval'. Should it be unanimous? Majority? 2/3rds? Or should we table these discussions for now? :D

Whatever the case, this is where it should be discussed. Oh, and is there a way to make this thread accessible only to the regs making the 'approvals'? :b

[Giea]

:D My first question is whether we shall consider all old regulars to still be regulars... Silver and Kyari both have Named Threads already, so one may assume them to be regulars. Perhaps we will have to petition them for entry? :knockedout: And perhaps we should agree what constitutes an 'approval'. Should it be unanimous? Majority? 2/3rds? Or should we table these discussions for now? :D

Whatever the case, this is where it should be discussed. Oh, and is there a way to make this thread accessible only to the regs making the 'approvals'? :b
Hmmm.. I hope this isn't to much to ask for but I read what you put in the other Thread.. but I just still don't get it >.< Is it just putting people in Places of Either "Newbie" or "Regular"?

[BAMAToNE]

Old regulars should be promoted to veteran status, and the new guys who aren't so new get promoted from militia to regular status. ;)

[Zedie9]

:D Since I came immediately from whatever other thread this discussion started in, I forgot to explain what FRAT stood for. Kilu used the phrase, and I noticed what it spelled: Forum Regular Approval Thread. :spin:

[pikatsu]

I say we have them fight to the death! Last man/woman standing gets promoted. :bash: :chair: :ambulance: :flagfi:

[silverDistortioN]

old regulars are all still considered regulars... supposing they start posting here.
so everyone who has created a named thread in the other forums go ahead and create one here.

decisions can't really be made unanimously or otherwise because odds are we'll be having some people offline for certain periods of time...

so i think just a general concensus... if anyone objects, we can simply talk it out and address the issue. if the person objecting still insists, we can just wait a little longer.

...unless anyone objects.

[Kilu]

I did create my first own thread in the old forums, but I'm not gonna make it here :p And I also had an 'official' named thread, probably by Zedie. And I didn't create anyones named threads either. So, I don't feel like making any named threads as it is.

[silverDistortioN]

i'll make 'em, if need be.

[Giea]

old regulars are all still considered regulars... supposing they start posting here.
so everyone who has created a named thread in the other forums go ahead and create one here.

decisions can't really be made unanimously or otherwise because odds are we'll be having some people offline for certain periods of time...

so i think just a general concensus... if anyone objects, we can simply talk it out and address the issue. if the person objecting still insists, we can just wait a little longer.

...unless anyone objects.Wow Silver finally said something meaningful! Lets Party!

[silverDistortioN]

go fuck yourself please.

[Kyari]

Heh, as good as done, right Giea?

I personally like hearing the travails of the regulars. I'm all for it.

[Yuffie]

OOH OOH!!! Do I get my random thread back again?! :D
I miss it...

[Zedie9]

:D Bah! I'm for Named Threads, but against them so soon. I say we should wait until at least the fifth rank. And I think future Named Threads should be made by a regular other than the one being given the thread. That's my opinion on the subject. ;)

:wonder: That said, who are regs then? Anyone who shows up here within the first month who had attained a rank of at least White Wizard? That was the demarcation before, methinks. Should it be higher now? :bouncy:

[silverDistortioN]

regs will be decided on upon discussion. let's make it one week of discussion, to give us time to change our minds. i also agree that one shouldn't make his (or her) own thread from now on. =)

so, everyone who's made someone else's on the old boards should be able to go ahead and remake it, i think.

and lastly... i'll go tell Charon once i see him again, Yuffie. =)

[Zedie9]

:wonder: Where is Charon? And Pezito, Cyrano, Otter, and some of the others? I would have thought they'd've shown up by now. Perhaps you should email them all, Silver. :bouncy:

[Kilu]

Well, I poked Pez in ICQ and sent a mail to Elhaym :) You do the rest :)

[silverDistortioN]

i assume they're all on vacation... just wait a few weeks.

[Zedie9]

Well, I poked Pez in ICQ and sent a mail to Elhaym :) You do the rest :):popcorn: Meh - I've already posted the suggestion to do it, which is a sure sign I won't actually be doing it. ;) :rofl:


:D I almost forgot to discuss regulars. Since we've agreed that all former regs returning within a month will be considered regs here, then several here now qualify, including TrueSephiroth, who (unless I'm mistaken) didn't get a Named Thread before because of the imminent demise of the old boards. Silver and Kyari already have theirs; perhaps we should ask who else would be interested in having a Named Thread? I mean, there's no sense in creating one if the named person isn't interested... :wonder: I am, btw, so Bama, go ahead and create my Hey Zedie! Thread, and let me know if you want your Bama Drama again, (unless anyone has objections to either of those threads, or any of the ideas expressed above. ) :bouncy:

[Mithrandir]

Bah I say you guys wait before doing member threads. You being "newbies" and all that would be considered as spam! :p

[silverDistortioN]

oooh... our first regular objection... =)

i don't really feel up for debate at the moment, tho... since Locke already made me my thread and all... so you guys feel free to argue either way.

[Mithrandir]

Well I was saying it more like a joke! I knew I should adde those [sarcasm] at the beggining an dend of the post!

[jetblue]

Dont do this....please.

This is one of the few boards I go to where Im not given stupid STFU noob signs and cursed at just because I post.
I have freedom here.

[silverDistortioN]

don't do... what, exactly?

[Kyari]

Yeah. We don't really consider each other newbies. We're just saying that because of the age of the forums and all :D .

[Zedie9]

Dont do this....please.

This is one of the few boards I go to where Im not given stupid STFU noob signs and cursed at just because I post.
I have freedom here.
:D We don't do that, Jetblue, and we aren't discussing a beginning of such behavior either. We are discussing Named Threads, which is a thread named for and used to talk about one of the regulars. So far, we've only agreed that Named Threads should only be created by a different regular than in the name, and that being 'regular' requires a healthy diet of bran and a higher Rank than any of us have yet attained on the new boards. ;)

[Charon]

I think the named threads should work like they did before, by being spontaneous. Very few of the old ones were "planned". they stemmed from the general banter of the forums. As to what is considered a regular, it's pretty straight forwards. Stick around. You'll know when you are one. It's right when you stop worrying about if you are a regular and just take part.
And thanks for noticing my abscence. Despite being offline for over a week I got no texts or phone calls from my site members, and opened hotmail to find not even a single "where are you" mail. :( But at least you guys noticed. :)

[silverDistortioN]

i was kinda worrying about you... but i managed to allay my fears by reminding myself that you don't do any heavy drugs. =)

[Kilu]

We care :)

And you are quite right about Named Thread being spontaneous. Atleast most of them. Atleast originally. It was only later that white mages were considered regulars and as a gift they got Named Thread™. Spontanousity (??) rules.

[Nahkrinoth]

I vote for the tyranny of the few(read: Whatever locke wants) rather than a majority decision. This is getting a little childish as it is.

[Pezito]

I'm for spontaneity. :)

http://etudiants.fsa.ulaval.ca/eehef/Bazar/GANDALF.jpg
=> Excellent, Mithy ! :rofl:

[silverDistortioN]

i agree with spontaneity... i just assumed no one else was because Zedie seemed to suggest so back before i got my own named thread. =P

[Cyrano de Hero]

Hooray for spontaniety...!

Anyway, everyone can relax! De Hero has arrived! Good thing for new forums, too, because now my name finally has the first letters of "Cyrano" and "Hero" capitalized. That bothered the hell out of me in the other forums... you have no idea how much, too...O_O

[Yuffie]

Hey Charon!!! :D

Sorry, couldn't wait for my new thread. :p
But...the lucozade one doesn't exist yet!! You could make that one if you wanted. ^^;

[Zedie9]

i agree with spontaneity... i just assumed no one else was because Zedie seemed to suggest so back before i got my own named thread. =PAnd you are quite right about Named Thread being spontaneous. Atleast most of them. Atleast originally. It was only later that white mages were considered regulars and as a gift they got Named Thread™.:wonder: It's not as if I was ever trying to stifle anyone or run the show. :p I suppose everyone has forgotten some of the behaviors of past members who started spamming like crazy in order to become 'regular'. As I recall, everyone (not just me) wanted a clearer definition of what should or shouldn't be considered 'regular', and I simply made suggestions. If my suggestions became the adopted 'rule', the other members are as much to blame for that as I am, so go ahread and spread it around. :nana:

:knockedout: As far as I'm concerned, we can all just be whatever rank we've attained, and people can go back to creating their own Named Threads after making fifty posts again. :roll:

:D So ~ If anyone wants me to reincarnate one of the Named Threads I created on the old boards, let me know here. :bouncy:

[Kilu]

:D So ~ If anyone wants me to reincarnate one of the Named Threads I created on the old boards, let me know here. :bouncy:

But that wouldn't be spontaneous at all :p

If someone were to create my femme friendly thread, it would be the lamest thing ever, because so few would actually have any idea of it's origins. Because it's creation was spontaneous. Recreating it now with the same name would be ridicilous. Same goes for 'Hey, Zedie' thread, which started because Zedie was unavailable in AIM. Though he still is, but the point still stands. Or maybe you want to create 'Zedie's Offical Hijacking Zone' as well. Which would make no sense, because Zedie hasn't hijacked any threads in here, yet. Or maybe there is some other Named Thread™ for Zedie that I'm unaware of? AND besides, as I browse the old forums, I see that most of the Named Threads™ don't really have anything to do with it's original name and supposed context... SO, there is no use to create more threads just for the fun of it. No use to create just because it's possible. No use to create just because it was there before. No use creating threads because person doesn't have one yet, like :D Well, jarim, congrats! You're the Big :cheese: in this thread ~ I didn't want you to feel left out, since the rest of us have one, give or take! ;) Enjoy, maroon! :spin: And no use to create more threads for Zedie to hijack :p



Also, it seems to me that some of you are desperate to create all the threads that existed in the old forums. Why? Leave something behind. Try to come up with something new instead. Or doesn't anyone have any new ideas, and reincarnating all old threads is a safest way to get a thread going?

[/meh]

[Pezito]

Hey Cyrano ! It's good t see you back with Capital Letters. :rofl:

http://pezito.free.fr/Bazar/Cyrano.jpg

Oh, and you've brought your noble steed, too ! :p

[Charon]

Cyrano! :D
This named threads thing has gone far enough. Let's leave it until something spontaneous calls for one, or we have a real need to resurrect one.

[silverDistortioN]

...oops... i meant to say "no one else did..." whoopsie.

anyway... i'm still curious as to what Zedie had in mind for the title of my thread on the old boards. i remember asking before..... or is it something you're embarrassed about?! =o

...do you lllloooovvvee me? ^.^

[Zedie9]

But that wouldn't be spontaneous at all :p:D That depends on how you look at it. I personally view it as such if someone spontaneously asked for their old thread back. And I stated things that way because unless they did, I had no real intention of recreating any of them. :p

If someone were to create my femme friendly thread, it would be the lamest thing ever, because so few would actually have any idea of it's origins. Because it's creation was spontaneous. Recreating it now with the same name would be ridicilous.:roll: You make the assumption that all Named Threads would have been made here with the exact same name as before. Yours and Pezito's are two examples that I would choose different names for if I were the one making them. :p

Same goes for 'Hey, Zedie' thread, which started because Zedie was unavailable in AIM.:D I actually liked that thread and miss it. If someone creates it, I'll use it. I won't, however, create my own Named Thread. :p

Or maybe you want to create 'Zedie's Offical Hijacking Zone' as well. Which would make no sense, because Zedie hasn't hijacked any threads in here, yet.:p No, I didn't want that thread remade, and yes, I have hijacked a thread here - Kyari's, though I don't think it stayed hijacked... :wonder:

Or maybe there is some other Named Thread™ for Zedie that I'm unaware of?The original one for me was made by DarkFant, I think... unless it was Mithy. But that's not the point. I have never wanted nor ever claimed to want to bring back every single Named Thread in existence before. Nor do I think there is anything wrong with anyone who does want their old Named Thread back - I personally disagree with the opinion that they are silly, pointless, and a waste of time.

AND besides, as I browse the old forums, I see that most of the Named Threads™ don't really have anything to do with it's original name and supposed context...:D There is a high probability of that description fitting most of the threads on the old boards, so singling out Named Threads seems rather heavy-handed to me. If you don't like Named Threads, don't create any, don't request one, and don't use one - that's cool with me. But I like them just fine, and that's cool with me, too. ;)

[1]SO, there is no use to create more threads just for the fun of it. [2]No use to create just because it's possible. [3]No use to create just because it was there before. [4]No use creating threads because person doesn't have one yet, like [5]And no use to create more threads for Zedie to hijack :p1.I disagree - your own stipulation of spontaneity contradicts the first part of that quote. :p
2.I rarely create threads just because they are possible - the Secret Ninja Thread is one obvious example. Can you think of another? :roll:
3.I hadn't intended to recreate every thread from the old boards.:roll:
4.This thread's purpose is to discuss that very thing. The discussion seemed to have become finger-pointing to me, so I tired of it and voiced my opinion (which still applies, as far as I am concerned): If you want a Named Thread back that I made before, let me know; otherwise, I won't be making any in the near future. :nana:
5.Above you said I hadn't hijacked any. ;)

Also, it seems to me that some of you are desperate to create all the threads that existed in the old forums. Why? Leave something behind. Try to come up with something new instead. Or doesn't anyone have any new ideas, and reincarnating all old threads is a safest way to get a thread going?
[/meh]*shrug* I'm not sure why you are so bothered by some of us wanting favored threads brought over to the new boards - I personally see nothing wrong with it. I had (and still have) no intention of remaking all the threads I ever created, much less all the old threads from the board. Of the ones I had any interest in seeing, some I have made and some were made for me (to my consternation, I'll admit :finger: ). To whit, I don't think I have gone overboard nor been excessive in any way. In fact, as I stated above, this very thread was created with the purpose in mind of coming to a group opinion about Named Threads, mainly to avoid the boards being suddenly filled with them, which I didn't want. :roll:

[Kilu]

:roll: You make the assumption that all Named Threads would have been made here with the exact same name as before. Yours and Pezito's are two examples that I would choose different names for if I were the one making them. :p
Of course I make the assumption, as no one has really stated otherwise.
I personally disagree with the opinion that they are silly, pointless, and a waste of time.
I think that since the creation of 'How's Life' thread we don't need 'Named Threads' for people to spill their guts on their selves. And because the subject rarely remains in the topic (with couple exception), the threads name could be anything from 'poopoo pant's journey to moon' to ' blaa blaa thread'. So yes, creating a named thread just for the purpose of creating a named thread seems silly, pointless, and waste of time to me.
3.I hadn't intended to recreate every thread from the old boards.:roll:
4.This thread's purpose is to discuss that very thing. The discussion seemed to have become finger-pointing to me, so I tired of it and voiced my opinion (which still applies, as far as I am concerned): If you want a Named Thread back that I made before, let me know; otherwise, I won't be making any in the near future. :nana:
5.Above you said I hadn't hijacked any. ;)
3. Sorry, I have yet to discover the skill of mind reading.
4. What can I say... I think asking for named thread is the lamest thing. I'm hoping you won't get any requests.
5. I don't stalk you, I don't know everything you do.
*shrug* I'm not sure why you are so bothered by some of us wanting favored threads brought over to the new boards
I'm not. I'm just hoping that only the threads that deserve it wil be brought here.
To whit, I don't think I have gone overboard nor been excessive in any way. In fact, as I stated above, this very thread was created with the purpose in mind of coming to a group opinion about Named Threads, mainly to avoid the boards being suddenly filled with them, which [i]I didn't want. :roll:
And I happen to think that creating this thread was a bit excessive. Making such a big thing about something so minimal and creating it's own thread which will eventually be hijacked, wasn't really necessary, as far as I'm concerned. We have numerous threads to talk about stuff already, we could have easily used one of those. It's not like we haven't done that before. As it stands, we do it all the time.

No, I don't have anything against Named Threads™, but I do have quite a lot againts useless threads. And most Named Threads™ are exactly that.

[silverDistortioN]

:D That depends on how you look at it. I personally view it as such if someone spontaneously asked for their old thread back. And I stated things that way because unless they did, I had no real intention of recreating any of them. :p

:roll: You make the assumption that all Named Threads would have been made here with the exact same name as before. Yours and Pezito's are two examples that I would choose different names for if I were the one making them. :p

:D I actually liked that thread and miss it. If someone creates it, I'll use it. I won't, however, create my own Named Thread. :p

:p No, I didn't want that thread remade, and yes, I have hijacked a thread here - Kyari's, though I don't think it stayed hijacked... :wonder:

The original one for me was made by DarkFant, I think... unless it was Mithy. But that's not the point. I have never wanted nor ever claimed to want to bring back every single Named Thread in existence before. Nor do I think there is anything wrong with anyone who does want their old Named Thread back - I personally disagree with the opinion that they are silly, pointless, and a waste of time.

:D There is a high probability of that description fitting most of the threads on the old boards, so singling out Named Threads seems rather heavy-handed to me. If you don't like Named Threads, don't create any, don't request one, and don't use one - that's cool with me. But I like them just fine, and that's cool with me, too. ;)

1.I disagree - your own stipulation of spontaneity contradicts the first part of that quote. :p
2.I rarely create threads just because they are possible - the Secret Ninja Thread is one obvious example. Can you think of another? :roll:
3.I hadn't intended to recreate every thread from the old boards.:roll:
4.This thread's purpose is to discuss that very thing. The discussion seemed to have become finger-pointing to me, so I tired of it and voiced my opinion (which still applies, as far as I am concerned): If you want a Named Thread back that I made before, let me know; otherwise, I won't be making any in the near future. :nana:
5.Above you said I hadn't hijacked any. ;)

*shrug* I'm not sure why you are so bothered by some of us wanting favored threads brought over to the new boards - I personally see nothing wrong with it. I had (and still have) no intention of remaking all the threads I ever created, much less all the old threads from the board. Of the ones I had any interest in seeing, some I have made and some were made for me (to my consternation, I'll admit :finger: ). To whit, I don't think I have gone overboard nor been excessive in any way. In fact, as I stated above, this very thread was created with the purpose in mind of coming to a group opinion about Named Threads, mainly to avoid the boards being suddenly filled with them, which I didn't want. :roll:i take it by this you mean, "yes, Silver! i do love you!"
in which case, i love you too Zedie. ^.~

anyway... i just want to interject...
this specific section of the forums doesn't have much of a point other than socialization. therefore, it should be okay to create named threads. it's not like we're running a business here and need to get rid of dead weight or something.

[Charon]

I'm not for against named threads. They are cool if used correctly, but I see little point in having such a huge deabte about how and when they should be made. I call for this topic to be locked and for named threads to take their natural course and appear, as they used to, when neccessity dictates. :)

[Pezito]

/agrees
/seconds
/applauses
/slaps all debaters around a bit with a large rabite

[silverDistortioN]

aww, man! don't lock the thread!
i need it for... um... talking. (typing, whatever. don't pick my nits.)

[Kyari]

Well, I'm not in this at all . . . I consider posting periodically during a mission to Australia when one has little to no computer access, and no access to the forums, a good reason for a specific thread. So there.

[Kilu]

Well, I'm not in this at all . . . I consider posting periodically during a mission to Australia when one has little to no computer access, and no access to the forums, a good reason for a specific thread. So there.

And your thread is one of the very few exceptions that actually have a purpose, other than to be hijacked (though Zedie did that already for your thread :p ). As far as I'm concerned, Named Threads are okay, as long as they are not made just because 'regulars' have earned them. I would think funky rank images and respect from other users are good enough prizes.

[Zedie9]

http://home.triad.rr.com/codafett/gifs/shrug.gif I really don't understand why some are so volatile about this subject - I really don't care one way or another. Kilu has a right to his opinion, and other than his dismissive tone, he has at least made it clear that he is only stating his opinion. Obviously this thread isn't pointless, whatever one might claim, because we are holding a debate, but I never intended for this to become so heated a discussion, nor to have so sour an atmosphere... :confused:

:D Anyway, the majority of posters in this thread have expressed a dislike for the debate itself, so I'm ready to drop the matter, for now. Which is not to say I won't create any Named Threads; useless and lame are in the eye of the beholder, after all. ;)