RPGN Moderator Election Discussion

[silverDistortioN]

so the RPGN mod elections are coming up...
who's up for some heated debate? ^.~

[Locke Cole]

I will answer any questions you may have about the position, including duties and functions that will be available to you. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have.

[jetblue]

How many mods will be elected?
Can one nominate themselves?
Is the position for a year or 6 months?
Is seniority a factor in nominations?
Will there be shifts?
How much pay? just kidding,reminds of union floor elections in the usps.

[Locke Cole]

How many mods will be elected?
Can one nominate themselves?
Is the position for a year or 6 months?
Is seniority a factor in nominations?
Will there be shifts?
How much pay? just kidding,reminds of union floor elections in the usps.
Woo, some questions to field. Well, lets go at them one by one.

Only one mod will be elected at this time. From the nominations we will select the top 5, and those 5 will campaign to win the final election :)

Yes, a person may nominate themselves if they feel they are fit for the position.

The position is an ongoing position, as long as you are a good moderator for our forums, you are welcome to stay one indefinately.

Seniority may be a factor in selecting the winner, but that is up to the users. I will have some say in who comes to power, but overall it will be you, the forum users who make the call.

No shifts really, this isn't a full time job or anything. It's just best to leave things to more then one person, as if I am unavailable there is a fair chance the other person may be around. Its mainly to lighten the load and relieve me from always being the bad guy :p

Paid? Sure, you get paid in cookies. In fact, the forum writes you a cookie every time you visit, so the more you visit, the more cookies you get paid! :o

[M.H.A.Q.S.]

I wanna be administrator...is that possible?
How do I mod everything to be mine...mine, mine mine!!!!?
Do I have to be evil to be a mod....Mwahahahhaha?

Anyways...I have only one question right now. Who are the candidates right now for the election?

edit: I wanna be VIP...:D ;).

[Locke Cole]

Right now we are awaiting people to nominate candidates for the election :) See the sticky thread for more details.

[eViL bAz]

HEHEHE thats good Locke Its a good thing your doing hehehe so anyway Luck with the campaign hehehe

[Lord Draud]

i nomonated my self i will give pizza and beer* to all who support my rein


*pizza and beer my be or may not be given out, any all ofers made in this post are not a garantee and should not be read as one

[Locke Cole]

Now is not the time to make false promises or sell yourself. Now is the time for people to pick who they think is good for the job.

[Lord Draud]

so we are not doing this american style then? ok then i still nomonate my self and i know i have suporters out there...some where like mick foly said the dozens and dozens of fan will support me

[Locke Cole]

As I said in the post, this is the first stage. This is just for honest nominations, no pulling for friends, I want people to choose someone they feel is fit and deserving of this position. The second portion of the election will be for selling yourself.

[silverDistortioN]

man... i was hoping to get some fair warning before these things started...
i wanted to catch up on my posting first. now none of the newer members are going to recognize me! =(

anyway... i made this for the president thread Marona was planning on making, but i guess this is as good a place as any to show it off! ^.~
fun for people with button makers: The foxy button (http://sixty9.servebeer.com/button.gif).

[Lord Draud]

i wish i had a button... i guess the only thing i can say is that i hope that the best Lich wins

[Elhaym van Houten]

If he were here, Zedie would be perfect for the job....
he already was some sort of moderator.
Oh well, but from the current regular users I think Kilu might be good for the job.
Ok, he's a bit direct sometimes, but he cares a lot about the forums, is very often around, and likes things going in a neat way.
And being direct might be helpful as well in a few cases...

:) what do you guys think?

[silverDistortioN]

i was thinking exactly the same thing, actually... Zedie usually has a nice handle on things whenever he's around. too bad he's not around.

Kilu is certainly familiar enough with the goings on of the forums, and he's around enough... so why not, i suppose.

[Kilu]

The foxy button (http://sixty9.servebeer.com/button.gif).
That is simply brilliant :D

One question for Locke here.
Will there be more positions opening later? I'm guessing the progress of the forums will determine that (as in, if the elected moderator "takes a vacation" or something), but I thought I'd ask anyway.

[Lord Draud]

hey there is some kind of mud sling against me what is my little sqaure thingy red and says i am have acted shamlessly? i have shame!

[jetblue]

Holy,I just noticed it. Why would you get that? And how?

[Ephraim]

I beleive it's explained in the Site Assistance forums, but as to who's been slinging mud against Draud, I couldn't begin to guess. He's such a nice evil lich, and behaves himself well. :confused: :D

[jetblue]

Well who ever did it,it was uncalled for. But hey Lord Draud wear it as a badge of honor. Your the only one to get a little red square. Makes you special and unique.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Lord Draud]

i'm not mean i am sacrastic and i want to make people think about the evil, its not just a word its a way of life.

[Kilu]

It's your rating. People have been rating your posts and you can check what kind of comments you have had from your Options. I'm not exactly sure what is the number you have to make it red, but it's definitely low number :D

[silverDistortioN]

you need to get at least 20 disapprovals... >.>

[Lord Draud]

i was at -10 but now i am at -2 so it seems people are fighting on my side!

[silverDistortioN]

i was at -10 but now i am at -2 so it seems people are fighting on my side!well, we'll just have to do something about that, won't we? *click!*

^.~

[Locke Cole]

What does any of this have to do with the moderator election? Future moderators should not encourage topics to go off topic :P

:offtopic: :dontsign:

As I revealed in the chatroom, the forum moderator, when elected, will gain some other abilities around the site as well. I don't want to give away too much information, but I will say that some of these powers will be dependant on who wins.

For example, one of the abilities may be to have control to post news on the front page of the website, this would be fine in most cases, but for some of us (Typoninja, draud, others who have consistant typos and spelling errors) I may choose something different for you. It's not a bad thing really, it's just things like that need to meet a certain standard for our site, just like the reviews and lyrics. That's why we pre-screen and edit them as need be.

Other abilities may include having a strong say in site changes, creation of new voting polls, sneak previews at the new design, and so such :) Good luck to everyone on their quest to become a mod.

:modguns:

[silverDistortioN]

this discussion is perfectly on topic; Draud's reputation, as a nominee, certainly plays a role in his ability to get elected.

besides, i made the topic, so i say what goes. nya-ha!

[Locke Cole]

this discussion is perfectly on topic; Draud's reputation, as a nominee, certainly plays a role in his ability to get elected.

besides, i made the topic, so i say what goes. nya-ha!
I think the word ability is the wrong word, I mean, having his reputation in the red won't stop him from winning if people vote for him. He has just as much ability to win as before, its just a factor users could consider when voting.. :o)

And as for the off-topic thing, :nana:

[Astrolounge]

I don't know, It's like voting for a five time convict of vehicular homicide...

PS: I just read my recomendations, and someone claimed I called Danial childish, which is interesting, because I have never done that. I got pissed off at him once of course. But I don't recall deliberatly insulting him in that way... This was the post;

Argueing is not entirely childish,
although that is much of the reason I have drifted out of this one.

I said argueing is not childish. and that I left the argument, because I simply don't like being in them. Anyway it's not like it's important.

PPS: If you havent alrready guessed this whole thing is an attempt to bother loke with more off topic nonsense. Bwa ha ha...

[Locke Cole]

I don't know, It's like voting for a five time convict of vehicular homicide...

PS: I just read my recomendations, and someone claimed I called Danial childish, which is interesting, because I have never done that. I got pissed off at him once of course. But I don't recall deliberatly insulting him in that way... This was the post;


I said argueing is not childish. and that I left the argument, because I simply don't like being in them. Anyway it's not like it's important.

PPS: If you havent alrready guessed this whole thing is an attempt to bother loke with more off topic nonsense. Bwa ha ha...
First off, spell arguing right atleast once! :p

[silverDistortioN]

I think the word ability is the wrong word, I mean, having his reputation in the red won't stop him from winning if people vote for him. He has just as much ability to win as before, its just a factor users could consider when voting.. :o)yes, that's why i said it plays a *role* in his ability to get elected. instead of something like... maybe... "he's gonna lose!"

[Locke Cole]

yes, that's why i said it plays a *role* in his ability to get elected. instead of something like... maybe... "he's gonna lose!"
Alright, so I just wanted to argue with you. So what? http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biggrin.gif 9 days remain for moderator nominations.

[Yuffie]

Hi Locke! I totally agree with everything you're saying, you're quite the genius aren't you? :D

Don't worry though! I'll save the day and be a great mod once I'm elected. :D

[silverDistortioN]

Hi Locke! I totally agree with everything you're saying, you're quite the genius aren't you? :Dha! don't even try! ...he already likes me more. =)

[FlashFirer]

Future moderators should know how to act and how to identify a bad post.
Go Kilu! Go Kilu! Go Kilu! Go Kilu! Go Kilu! Go Kilu!

[Yuffie]

Yeah Silver but I have one secret weapon that you don't have! :D

Hey...where did you get those breasts from?! Now what will I do?! :bawl:

[silverDistortioN]

*juggles them* ^.^

[Yuffie]

Show off. Just cause you have 3 and I don't. ¬¬

[silverDistortioN]

*hands her one*
there, now get to jugglin'! =D

...well, there's one vote won. ^.~
(hoorah! cuz i stayed on topic! ...kinda.)

[silverDistortioN]

why its not a vote its a landslid kilu wins now give him his price and let us sore loosers bethose were the nominations... elections haven't taken place yet.

next, you get to campaign. *then,* you get to vote.

[Astrolounge]

First off, spell arguing right atleast once! :p
Nevers!
Not until you put a space between "at" and "least!"
It's all more stuff just to bug you.

PS: Of course I thought you would get more bothered by the fact I spelled your NAME wrong.

[Zeugma 440]

I have one thing to point out today : what recently happened in the "What are you listetning to right now ?" thread made me think about this moderator election. Silver did the perfect moderator job whereas Kilu got a bit too emotionally involved in the debate.

Coincidence ?

I guess I need to think a bit more before casting my final vote...

[Kilu]

Well, all I have to say is that one tends to get involved when the replies are pretty much directed toward you, having next to none real arguments, mostly personal attacks hidden inside an opinion. So sure, I got a little carried away there myself as well, but hey, I'm not a robot, so this is bound to happen. For everyone, I might add ;) Also, I'm known to be blunt, and that's never going to change. Consider that when you cast your votes, whenever that might be.

Which is actually a good question. How long is the campaigning period, and when will the voting take place? Will it be a forum poll, or something else? Forum poll could be compromised with dupe accounts, just made for voting. Unless you check every users IP. So what are the plans?

[eViL bAz]

I agree with Kilu but it can make the poll, and put the option to see the person that vote, and there you can see how much it can trust in that person vote, dont you think,.....ok it could be a bad idea cuz it would see who votes for who, but its the more honest and transaprent form to vote in this kind of elections

[tanisthalon]

Somethings do happen like that, but isnt that what appeal systems are to help address? Sure Kilu became involved and I am sure that sometimes Locke has also. They are human, I think, and freedom lets them express opinion, even if it does not meet a majority approval. If such a thing happened if/when Kilu becomes a moderator, an appeal could quite easily overturn an issue and even remove or change a statement to bioth individuals consent. Before you say, well what if Kilu doesnt wish to negotiate a compromise, blah, blah, well an impartial mediator could be involved.
We are all human, this time I think am sure, we all have good points and bad points, sometimes we express ourselves at the dissaproval of others, sometimes we gain a majority support. Its all about a quantative understanding and impartialness that helps things move on.
I still believe Kilu is the right person for the postition, and I am sure the larger majority believe this too. Also if there isnt an appeal system working, it could quite easliy be set up. The impartial mediator could be any member. Anyways I am babbling........be reasonable and vote for the person with overall best qualities in yuor opinion, remember nobodys perfect :).

[silverDistortioN]

nobody except me, right? ^.~

i don't think any of the moderators would abuse their power. on these boards, we've only had to delete one thread (as well as ban one "member"), but it had nothing to do with a discussion getting out of hand. (it was porn spam, in case anyone was wondering.)

when i take to a debate, i go in hoping to come out a little wiser. i always try to consider both sides to the best of my ability, something i very much hope to apply to the way i moderate. and i don't want to have to end up relying on an appeals system, but i would certainly be in favor of one (an unofficial one would suffice, in my opinion... we can't really rely on majority vote, for example, when most members are inactive.)

i would also try to *discourage* bothersome content (as opposed to flat-out removing it).

and lastly, i think it would be best to have the "impartial mediator" you mentioned as the moderator, rather than requiring an additional party to keep him in place.

[tanisthalon]

Good response. Although I didnt mean to imply that all missunderstandings etc. should go to an appeal systems, I meant it as a last resort. It is intended in a way to be a final compromise when all other courses of action have been exhausted.
I referenced that if it was Kilu as a mod took a protest to an appeal with the other party that the impartial mediator could be a member. By all means it could be anyone and a mod may be the best person to overlook such an occurence.
I am sure some are thinking who watches the watchers, well we put our trust into the system that we work with. The mods are there to oversee and I am sure that the mods when necessary will take critism and understanding ensue. After all life is a big learning curve, from our mistakes we grow wiser and stronger.
Does anyone have any other thoughts about the current topic. Again I am babbling.

[silverDistortioN]

i just want to add that Locke will be the one overseeing the overseers... and since we've all been posting under his rule this whole time, i doubt anyone would object to that. >.>

[Lord Draud]

I will dow nwith the system we demand a free state with no rules or laws so we can express our selfs freely!...or not now taht i think about it would be just like AOL or yahoo chat then

[Astrolounge]

I hate AOL and Yahoo.

[Locke Cole]

I will dow nwith the system we demand a free state with no rules or laws so we can express our selfs freely!...or not now taht i think about it would be just like AOL or yahoo chat then
We are deciding on a moderator, they will have no power over changing the forum rules or anything to this nature. Hell will freeze over before this forum becomes the next AOL style board....

[Kilu]

Which is actually a good question. How long is the campaigning period, and when will the voting take place? Will it be a forum poll, or something else? Forum poll could be compromised with dupe accounts, just made for voting. Unless you check every users IP. So what are the plans?
I want some answers dammit :dance:

[Locke Cole]

Which is actually a good question. How long is the campaigning period, and when will the voting take place? Will it be a forum poll, or something else? Forum poll could be compromised with dupe accounts, just made for voting. Unless you check every users IP. So what are the plans?
Well, once the campaign headquarters are opened up, everyone will have one month to campaign. The voting will take place during the month of April, and I am still working out exactly how the voting will work. I don't want to give away my plans, as it can be abused if you knew how to prepare :P

Campaign HQ is being built, and should be ready by the end of the month.

[Kilu]

Campaign HQ
<3

This is going to be so weird :D

[Charon]

O_O

Remind me to pop in more often. Looks like I missed the nominations by a day or two... no one voted for Zedie?

[BAMAToNE]

O_O

Remind me to pop in more often. Looks like I missed the nominations by a day or two... no one voted for Zedie?

Zedie would have been nominated by whole lot of people (including me) except he's been MIA for the last 6 months or so. You've not been around much either... :bawl:

[Kilu]

Yeah, it's kind of useless to nominate a person to moderate who just isn't around to do it.