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Kilu
11-13-2004, 04:48 AM
Star Ocean 3 Directors cut ost.

Astrolounge
11-13-2004, 11:36 AM
Chop Suey!

Mustela
11-13-2004, 11:42 AM
Apotygma Berzerk - Electricity

Mithrandir
11-13-2004, 06:19 PM
Fog Bound
_Pirates of the Caribbean
Klaus Badelt

I don't really like Hans Zimmer style (which is copied by all his proteges and since Badelt is part of those it sounds like Zimmer)

But, still, it has a nice driving rythm, even though the main theme is toopresent on th soundtrack.

daniel
11-14-2004, 11:15 AM
Hurry!!! .....no not you lot! ...thats the tune on FFX I am listening to.....and yes I added 1 exclamation mark haha

Giea
11-14-2004, 12:00 PM
LOTR Soundtrack! Oh yeah =D

Astrolounge
11-14-2004, 09:11 PM
Chop Suey I tell you! It takes YEARS to get sick of this tune!
Toxicity is good too.

Kilu
11-15-2004, 11:59 AM
Everything SOAD is good :)
pogopogopogo! :)

Listening to Alundra 2 soundtrack. I actually remember couple of these tunes.

Astrolounge
11-15-2004, 01:33 PM
Hooray! SOMEBODY agree's with me! Everyone at my work thinks it suck's.
Well to each his own I suppose.
I am now listening to the tunes in my FFTA game.
Ultima Lini!

Giea
11-15-2004, 11:19 PM
Listening to the Harry Potter on cassette. Too lazy to read it. =P

Astrolounge
11-16-2004, 12:44 AM
Death to Umbridge.

Mustela
11-16-2004, 03:03 PM
Fullmetal Aclhemist soundtrack - Asian Kung fu generation - Rewrite
Jrock is good, k? =)

Zeugma 440
11-17-2004, 06:44 AM
hehe... the release of Full Metal Alchemist OST 2 has been planned for December 15th :D There are awesome tracks that are not covered by OST 1 in the 2nd half of the series. Now all I can do is wait... patience, my friends, parience...

*now listening to myself typing this post*

Mustela
11-20-2004, 09:47 AM
Golden sun Soundtrack - Wrong Happy End

Didn't know how sad music can be so good until I played Golden Sun.

*edit* YAY! I'm a hunter!

Kilu
11-20-2004, 12:50 PM
Golden sun Soundtrack - Wrong Happy End
But there is no Golden Sun Soundtrack! *head explode* ;)


Listening to Starship Troopers Soundtrack.

Zeugma 440
11-21-2004, 03:49 AM
"An Imminent Crisis" - Dragon Quarter OST, by Hitoshi Sakimoto

Mustela
11-23-2004, 07:53 AM
Assemblage 23 - Let me be your Armour

Kilu
11-23-2004, 01:22 PM
Pakkun Flower Lullaby from Peach Healing

Zeugma 440
11-24-2004, 01:41 AM
"Requiem to a Predicament ~ Falling Under Negative Consciousness ~", from Motoi Sakuraba Live Concert

Kilu
11-24-2004, 01:43 PM
The Shadows. The greatest band ever.

Mustela
11-27-2004, 04:21 PM
Rurouni Kenshin soundtrack - in memories (Boy meets the man)

Mithrandir
11-28-2004, 07:12 PM
No Phone by Cake

I really like what Cake does. Not all his songs are good but many are good. This one kept playing in my head for a long time.

Kilu
11-29-2004, 09:38 AM
Some Blur.

Mithrandir
12-01-2004, 06:17 PM
Boulevard of Broken Dreams

GreenDay

Ahh....Green Day are great!! Gotta love their style.

Kilu
12-02-2004, 12:16 PM
Vurez.
His (assuming he is he) remix have rocked my ass lately.

Mustela
12-02-2004, 01:02 PM
Jeff Wayne - Eve of the war
Anyone read war of the worlds? it's cool that Wells wrotte it around 1900 :D

Astrolounge
12-02-2004, 01:26 PM
I like the epidemic the radio broadcast caused, more than the book itself.
But yes, I liked the novel a lot.

Zeugma 440
12-03-2004, 01:41 AM
"Dante & Trish ~ Seeds of Love (Staff Roll)", from Devil May Cry OST

One of the rare "positive" tracks of the album... the contrast with the rest make it sound magnificient. It almost brings tears to my eyes everytime I listen to it...

Astrolounge
12-03-2004, 01:08 PM
Smash mouth, and some other stuff.

Astrolounge
12-06-2004, 01:12 PM
"Mood For A Day" by Yes.
This song has some of the best harmonics I have ever heard.
(Has anyone even heard of this band besides me?)

Kilu
12-06-2004, 02:22 PM
Bloodhound Gang, Hooray for Boobies.

For some reason I can't get enough of this album :D

Mustela
12-06-2004, 05:04 PM
Slagsmålsklubben - Övningsköra

And for non-swedes:
The fight club - Driving practice, or something...

Kilu
12-07-2004, 09:17 AM
Psycho: A Suite for Strings: The Swamp by Bernard Herrmann from The Film Scores album.

Zeugma 440
12-07-2004, 02:15 PM
"My Land", from Ecliptica by Sonata Arctica (yay !)

Astrolounge
12-07-2004, 02:17 PM
Seriously... Anybody heard of the band "Yes"?
It's good, and I can't get enough of it!

Mustela
12-07-2004, 02:51 PM
Cinematic Suite From the World of Warcraft Soundtrack.
Can't wait for the Eu-beta to be released :D

Kilu
12-07-2004, 03:10 PM
CMX, Veljeskunta [Gold version]. Older CMX is quite different than the current one. It's interesting to see how the band has changed over the years.

And no, I haven't heard of a band called 'Yes'. And yes, Sonata Arcticas first album kicks nuts. I think it might even be the best of their albums so far. It's sort of raw and unpolished, but also full of power and enthusiasm :)

Astrolounge
12-07-2004, 03:28 PM
Some old records I found in our basement,
mmmm... Staticy...

renshai
12-08-2004, 12:29 AM
the chrono cross OST - hooray for studying music!

SuperMarioSunshineDude
12-18-2004, 08:26 PM
Mario Power Tennis - Delfino Plaza

Kilu
12-19-2004, 05:28 AM
Saturn was Our Youth album. sucks.

SuperMarioSunshineDude
12-19-2004, 06:54 PM
Super Monkey Ball - Monkey Billards


I love the piano to this bgm :D

Astrolounge
12-19-2004, 10:13 PM
Long distance run-around. Nothing to write home about.

Zeugma 440
12-20-2004, 03:14 AM
"Eternal", by Michiru Oshima ~ Full Metal Alchemist OST 2

Elhaym van Houten
12-22-2004, 11:00 AM
Sound Test 4 - Winter Special...
it got me in the right mood for Christmas pretty fast :)

Kilu
12-22-2004, 11:33 AM
I can't believe it's already been a year from that album... liutenant Sulu of the Starship Enterprise.. :dance: Also, my horrible horrible christmas song. Oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god :D

I'm listening to some random vg remixes.
Soon I'll be listening to Snake Eater OST.

I found some old backup cds yesterday and noticed that they were about year old. That damn christmas song is there too :) Maybe I should re-touch it and post it here somewhere :)

Mustela
12-22-2004, 12:13 PM
Taku Iwasaki - Eclipse, from Rurouni Kenshin OVA 2

What's that about a cristmas song Kilu? =)

Zeugma 440
12-22-2004, 01:16 PM
"Snake Eater", by Cynthia Harrell , from MGS3 OST

This one reminds me of a James Bond Main Titles :D

Kilu
12-22-2004, 02:29 PM
Taku Iwasaki - Eclipse, from Rurouni Kenshin OVA 2

What's that about a cristmas song Kilu? =)
Wouldn't you like to know :)

"Snake Eater", by Cynthia Harrell , from MGS3 OST

This one reminds me of a James Bond Main Titles :D
It's supposed to :) Have you seen the very first trailer (I think it was the first one anyway) of the game? It's erm... interesting :)

Zeugma 440
12-23-2004, 07:47 AM
The first trailer ? Huh, I'm not that much into game trailers, except when somebody gives me a link ;)


-Listening to "Legacy", by Jason Hayes & Tracy Bush, from World of Warcraft OST-

...at last, the best epic soundtrack of the end of the year on a decent stereo system !

eViL bAz
12-27-2004, 04:36 PM
Im listen the quitness of my life and the sad that would be if everyone at my side goes forever http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/bawl.gif, and also FFX-2 Vocal Collection YUNA - Morning Glow

tanisthalon
12-28-2004, 05:37 AM
Final Fantasy VII Piano Collection. Got one of the last Original DigiCube Releases from www.cdjapan.co.jp just before christmas :). Also Final Fantasy VII OST, another lucky find as it to is an original DigiCube Release, from eBay. Just keep sifting throught all the fakes on eBay for a 20020220 Original DigiCube now :).

Yuffie
12-28-2004, 06:32 AM
It's not from a game but I'm excited because I'm listening to phantom of the opera!!! YAAAAAAY! :D

But I bought my dad a 12 disk Faye Wong box set for christmas and she does game music so that counts too. ;)

Kilu
12-28-2004, 08:10 AM
The Last Emperor Soundtrack by Ryuichi Sakamoto and David Byrne. It's pretty smooth.

Zeugma 440
12-29-2004, 08:08 AM
"El Fondo de la Noche", by Nick Tam (Chrono Trigger arrangment)

Quiet, slightly sad tune : this one is exactly what I need right now *sighs*

Kilu
12-29-2004, 10:36 AM
Foo Fighters, Colour and Shape album.

eViL bAz
12-29-2004, 10:43 AM
MTV Ultimate Mash Up With Linking PArk and Jay-Z

Astrolounge
12-29-2004, 11:46 AM
Lorne Elliot's Air Canada.

Ephraim
12-29-2004, 01:24 PM
Is that a comedy routine or actual music? I know he does both, but usually mixed together.

FFIX and FFX OSThttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/tophat.gif

Astrolounge
12-29-2004, 10:18 PM
It's a song, to the tune of the national anthem, but slurring the airline company.

Zeugma 440
12-31-2004, 07:13 AM
"Deep Breath", by SGX

Seems like trance music is somehow good for the balance of my mind :)

tanisthalon
12-31-2004, 07:48 AM
Super Smash Brother Melee Live

Gator
12-31-2004, 10:48 AM
well, it's playing only inside my head right now, but "Go With The Flow", by Queens of the Stone Age...how they roxor...

Kilu
12-31-2004, 12:08 PM
Dragon Quest 8 Soundtrack. Ok, I guess. Not really all that awesome that I had thought it would be.

Mustela
01-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Toilet Story 3 by Ghidorah
.xm is the win =)

Zeugma 440
01-03-2005, 08:17 AM
"Morgan Captured", from Cutthroat Island OST by John Debney :spin:

SuperMarioSunshineDude
01-03-2005, 09:49 PM
Legend Of Zelda Title Theme Ocarina Of Time (Rearranged)

Yuffie
01-04-2005, 07:42 AM
The chocobo racing song in FF7! YAHOO! :dance:

Mustela
01-04-2005, 09:59 AM
Chill Penguin BGM from Megaman X

eViL bAz
01-07-2005, 03:00 PM
The Great Cave (Great Hollow) - Genso Suikoden 3 Ongakushu ~Rustiling Wind~, MAMMBBOOOOO TIIIIMMMEEE!!! hehehehe and now that Im dancer, watch out girllllsss!!!! (hope missus doesnt know about this hehehe)

Yume
01-07-2005, 05:26 PM
at the moment I'm listening tooo~ AIR Original Compilation Album, Ornithopter. I love this one. Its a fresh OST but I've already listened to all these AIR remixes. Well... I'd call it asian melodic with some other nice tunes.

not to forget.. Hello everyone. I'm new here and from cold ol' germany. I'm lookin forward to everything here ^_^

Bye, Yume

eViL bAz
01-07-2005, 06:23 PM
Welcome hope you enjoy your stay here and stay in tune, the only person you must care about it its Kilu he's bad ;) no its Joke everyone its so good persons but anyway take care

Yume
01-07-2005, 06:48 PM
Thanks ^_^ Uhm.. after reading a little on forums, I've no doubt about it.. Cant imagine, that people which love VGMusic might be evil XD

Bye, Yume

Zeugma 440
01-08-2005, 04:56 AM
"Tragedy of Rebirth", from Angel Sanctuary Drama OST by Hikaru Nanase

Kilu
01-08-2005, 05:05 AM
Some random compilation CD my brother cooked up. Right now there is a a song which name I can't recall from Seiken Densetsu Legend of Mana by Yoko Shimomura. I love Shimomura :)

Oh, and hey Yume :)

Astrolounge
01-08-2005, 12:17 PM
The soundtrack to "O brother where art thou?"

Yume
01-08-2005, 12:25 PM
Falcom Special Box 2004 > Ys VI - Ark of Napishtim Original Soundtrack > 02 - Release of the Far West Ocean :)

Bye, Yume

jetblue
01-10-2005, 01:27 AM
I finally found it. G.I.T.S. S.A.C. OST. Inner universe rocks!

Yume
01-10-2005, 10:14 AM
SQUAREDANCE / Dj Pretzel - Cyan (Cyan's Theme - Final Fantasy VI)

*bumps this topic* :)

Kilu
01-10-2005, 11:18 AM
Legend of Dragoon OST. Underrated.

Lord Draud
01-11-2005, 02:17 AM
METALLICA! and i mean all ov it thanks to grm i have every album and song they made and so i let the real music roll

Yume
01-11-2005, 11:35 AM
Pre-Clsade - Lix - The Depth Napishtim -Quark Drive mix- v1.1 ~ from Ys 6 http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/love.gif

daniel
01-12-2005, 04:32 AM
Tomorrow never dies, james bond.

A very nice piece considering its modern...I hated die another day what a piece of crap that music score was

Yume
01-12-2005, 12:45 PM
Zone of the Enders, ANUBIS - Beyond the Bounds (Full Version) *melt~* http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/love.gif

Yuffie
01-12-2005, 06:03 PM
"Think of me" from Phantom of the Opera. ^^;

I'm slightly obsessed by that show. :p

Zeugma 440
01-13-2005, 01:46 AM
"Encounter with Pandora", from PERSONA Be Your True Mind ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACKS (Disc 1) by Hidehito Aoki, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shoji Meguro & Misaki Okibe

Thanks to eViL bAz's request, I have discovered an interesting soundtrack :spin:

eViL bAz
01-13-2005, 01:11 PM
Persona be your true mind TOOOO!!!!!,No, Thanks to you Zeugma beacuse this is one of my favorites OST

tanisthalon
01-13-2005, 02:15 PM
I am about to start listening to SaGa Frontier 2 thanks to eViL bAz ;).

Maxin
01-13-2005, 02:24 PM
Complete silence...

Damn workplace...

I should be reading an article now anyway...

Yume
01-17-2005, 01:36 AM
Donkey Kind Country Project - Kong in Concert CD Album > 15 - bLiNd - Aerofunknamics (Funky's Fugue) http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/dance.gifRocks extremely in the early morning hours :D

Jalk
01-17-2005, 03:01 AM
"The Phantom of the Opera" - Nightwish version, eheheh. It's really a magnificient song.

Mustela
01-17-2005, 08:39 AM
Bokujou Monogatari (Harvest moon) - Mountain
.spc is great for people whos ussually on 56k :D

Yume
01-17-2005, 10:30 AM
yea, i agree. Pretty nice quality for such a size :)

Miki Hagashino & TAPPY (Genso Suikoden II) - Gothic Necolord (Neclord Battle BGM)

Greetz, Yume

Zeugma 440
01-22-2005, 05:03 AM
"Tank (live)", from Seatbelts - Souvenir of Tokyo, by Yoko Kanno & the Seatbelts http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/listenmusic.gif

Kilu
01-22-2005, 07:36 AM
DRAGONBALL Z & Z2 Original Soundtrack

Some good songs, but overall this is kind of crap.

Jalk
01-22-2005, 11:34 AM
Witch Hunter Robin OST : Flame.
WHR is really a nice soundtrack, with a lot of BGM music. It's especially great to listen when you're working.

Yume
01-22-2005, 11:57 AM
Witch Hunter Robin OST : Flame.
WHR is really a nice soundtrack, with a lot of BGM music. It's especially great to listen when you're working.
Truly, it is. Its a masterpiece. I specialy like the opening with the e-guitar tune.. a melancholic and somehow mysterious melodie.. but its excellent. Well, the entire OST is great :)

Ecco ~ Songs of Time - Abyss

Greetz, Yume

bluedragonx
01-22-2005, 10:01 PM
Someone uploaded a helluva of a lot of Capcom and Sega soundtracks on to my FTP server. I'm slowly listening to them right now.

Zeugma 440
01-23-2005, 04:52 AM
Paul Oakenfold - Live Mix @ DanceDepartment - 15 Nov 2003

This one's kinda average. Mostly based on tracks from Bunkka, which isn't my fav album :wonder: This series of livesets is always more interesting on their 2nd part, when it switches from drum n' bass to vocal and energetic stuff.

Kilu
01-23-2005, 06:07 AM
Radio show
VG Frequency #44.99: Zombo Everybody, Zombo Everything by Larry Oji from VG Frequency

Mustela
01-23-2005, 10:30 AM
KLaus Wunderlich - Baby elephant walk

Jalk
01-23-2005, 01:18 PM
Yoko Kanno : The man in the desert, from her solo album, Song to Fly... God, is this woman talented !

Elhaym van Houten
01-23-2005, 01:52 PM
yeah, Yoko Kanno is a genius ^^
and that album is really great.
:D I'm currently listening to Battle Theme 2 from the Breath of Fire 1 Original Soundtrack...
I was sorting through my SPCs, and nostalgia inkled me to play a few ^^

Yume
01-23-2005, 02:46 PM
Yea Yoko is the greatest. I already saw her on a live concert (Animagic 2002 / German Anime Convention) and after waiting in the hot sun for like 3 hours, I was able to get an autograph (on my *mint* Cowboy Bebop CD Box Set) and gave her my hand to say thanks. After 2 days.. I deiced to wash my hand lol ;) Live concerts are really something special.. listening to the melodie and feeling how it is flowing into the body.. awesome. :D

Ys VI - The Ark of Napishtim Original Soundtrack - Gratitude to Nature's Blessings

Greetz, Yume

Elhaym van Houten
01-23-2005, 05:22 PM
wow, Yume - you're from Germany, too?
:D That makes already two of us here.
It was about time, I felt a bit lonely ^^
.... °_o ...I'm almost a bit envious, but you're so lucky to see Yoko Kanno live...
and Cowboy Bebop is my most favourite of her soundtracks :)
lucky you ^^
maybe I should get up my ass and drag it to one of those conventions one day...
I'm just not the social type, I guess :p

Right now I'm listening to my friend playing Spellforce....it has a nice soundtrack

Shodown X
01-24-2005, 01:41 AM
Supervixen
~by
Garbage
~from
Garbage

:) I need more Garbage
care to share Garbage.....I only have their first 3 albums though...you have been warned

Yume
01-24-2005, 06:41 AM
wow, Yume - you're from Germany, too?
:D That makes already two of us here.
It was about time, I felt a bit lonely ^^
.... °_o ...I'm almost a bit envious, but you're so lucky to see Yoko Kanno live...
and Cowboy Bebop is my most favourite of her soundtracks :)
lucky you ^^
maybe I should get up my ass and drag it to one of those conventions one day...
I'm just not the social type, I guess :p
Jupp, germany > nord-rhein-westfalen > paderborn (near bielefeld) :) Interesting that more of 'our species' made to these forums :D At the beginning wasnt such a big fan of CB OST's, cause of its oldschool sound. After I finished watching the series (I forced myself) I luved it.. strange, strange ^^'
Well.. conventions are evil.. sweaty smelling people everywhere, crowded.. and most of all.. HOT! unbelievable hot... :( But hey, its also funny in many ways ^_^

Cool & Create [DJ Unknown] [Ragna-Beat 2] Rag All Night Long [EP2.0UTI-Rave Mix]

Hell.. this sound is awesome.. >_< :)

Greetz, Yume

Kilu
01-24-2005, 11:16 AM
CMX
It kicks ass.
Elhaym, don't take so long pauses from the forums, we miss you.

Elhaym van Houten
01-25-2005, 02:35 AM
> Yume: :D...well, I'm from Germany > NRW> Münster, so I know Paderborn ^^
what a coincidence :)
Heh, I loved the Bebop OST at first listen, because it is so old school and jazzy - that was something really rare, and gave the anime a very special flair.

Currently listening to "Rancid Purgatory" by goat :) great remix

Kilu
01-25-2005, 10:12 AM
Various System of a Down albums. \m/

Jalk
01-25-2005, 01:52 PM
Currently listening Asellus' theme. I can't say why, but this song has something very special about it that makes you listen to it again and again ;)

Maxin
01-25-2005, 02:09 PM
Broken silence...
With a fume hood fan droning in the background...
And an ambulance coming down the street...

You can tell I'm at work.

M.H.A.Q.S.
01-26-2005, 03:29 PM
Snake Eater - MGS3

Elhaym van Houten
01-26-2005, 04:17 PM
some drunks on the street, shouting...
:D I live in a rough neighbourhood, with lots of student :b

Maxin
01-26-2005, 04:35 PM
some drunks on the street, shouting...
:D I live in a rough neighbourhood, with lots of student :b
Hmm...ambulance vs. drunk people.

You win!

Jalk
01-26-2005, 04:39 PM
some drunks on the street, shouting...
:D I live in a rough neighbourhood, with lots of student :b
Yay ! I'm not alone ! That's what I'm listening too right now ! (plus Suzanne Vega, Caramel, but her voice is definitely not strong enough to cover that kind of noise :D)

Yuffie
01-26-2005, 05:04 PM
I live near 2 pubs and there isn't much noise, but when there is it's quite good evening entertainment to hear what crap they argue about. :)

The other day there was some guy and his girl was getting annoyed because he was talking to another lady and flirting, then I heard what sounded like high heels quickly making their way down a street in a huff. :)

Right now....listening to just the hum of my computer. :(

daniel
01-27-2005, 12:21 AM
Heres something, I am listening to 'Lost Boys and Golden Girls' by meatloaf (written by JIm steinman).

But you wanna know what I don't wanna listen to?

This damn domestic fan that is cooling my PC thanks to a power pack that is rubbish and has a broken fan. I need to get a new one they are only cheap, right now though its this fan or more smoke

Elhaym van Houten
01-27-2005, 04:28 AM
:( that must be unnerving...
Our PC got a new cooler for Christmas, and now it's enjoyably silent....
so silent I sometimes forget it is on :D

Currently listening to snowflakes falling....
a nice, quiet sound, actually :)

Zeugma 440
01-27-2005, 05:03 AM
"Eternal", from I Have A Dream, by See-Saw (Yuki Kajiura's band)

*chills out*

M.H.A.Q.S.
01-27-2005, 06:42 AM
Back On A Mission - Cirrus

Yume
01-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Akineko (Akihito) - MatsuMetal- Battle on the Bridge (FFV) ... *headbangs* :D

Greetz, Yume

Kilu
01-27-2005, 12:09 PM
Serenity by Godsmack.

Brilliant.

eViL bAz
01-27-2005, 01:04 PM
.hack// Game Music Perfect Collection: stage19 (Common Desert Field ~ Battle) Hell there good electronic music in here


UPDATE: Hearing some hell good tracks, Lost Fragments (Guitarr Arrangment Form Chrono Cross) ~ Hopeful Weeds Vol. 003, The 3 Volumes of this albums are now realeased in #GAMEMP3s and theyre very good (3 vol. of 2 track each one but like if there was 20!!!! hehehe)

Zeugma 440
01-28-2005, 03:46 PM
"Tristam (Reprise)", from Diablo OST

Gloomy, fascinating, mystical... The best track of the album, without hesitation !

Vicki
01-28-2005, 07:09 PM
"Que Sera Sera" from Katamari Damachii Soundtrack. A song that's just as strange as the game, if that's even possible! Sounds like a lounge singer got rolled up in that katamari.

DonQuixote
01-28-2005, 10:58 PM
a lost child (.hack//sign)

Jalk
01-29-2005, 02:17 AM
Currents, Genso Suikoden Celtic Collection III version... Not a bad one, actually, very similar to the one on Orrizonte.

Zeugma 440
01-29-2005, 04:11 AM
Vicki> Well, I have given a listen to that Katamari Damacy OST, and everything sounds strange :confused: It's like a whacky pop opera sung in japanese :D

-Currently listening to another Paul Oakenfold liveset @ Dance Department (27th September 2003). Sounds excellent so far :shades: -

eViL bAz
01-29-2005, 11:00 AM
Hey Jalk the Orizzonte version its better that the only difference but the CC it too a good one but not my favorite

tanisthalon
01-29-2005, 11:47 AM
Xenogears OST, definately ranks up there with some of the best in my honest opinion :).

Jalk
01-29-2005, 12:17 PM
eViL bAz : Totally agree with you. But there are some very interesting tracks on Suikoden Celtic Collection 3, theme of a moonlight night especially.

Elhaym van Houten
01-29-2005, 12:27 PM
^^ what a coincidence -
currently listening to "Gothic Neclord" from Suikoden Ongakushu produced by Kentarou Haneda

eViL bAz
01-29-2005, 01:23 PM
Jalk: The 3 CC are my favorites Albums so Im with you about that, also I recomend to you Genso Suikoden Both Vocal Collection especially La Mia tristezza song by Risa Ohki excellent vocals

Elly: Like Jalk Good Choice hehehehehe I lik eGothic Neclord

Tanis: Xenogears OST Rules Especially the Track June Mermaid thats my daugther song hehehehe

Im hearing Octuber Mermaid from XENOGEARS:CREID by the great Yasunori Mitsuda hehehehe

tanisthalon
01-29-2005, 02:12 PM
eViL bAz you should do a top 10 or top 20 of albums, well maybe a top 50 'cause you'd have Suikoden for the vast majority :). It's a thought anyways, 'cause you definately have a good appreciation of music and genres of music!!!

eViL bAz
01-29-2005, 02:19 PM
Thanks tanis thats not a bad Idea????? *begin to think* maybe a thread to see which are their favorite 10 to all rpgamers what you think?

UPDATE: Hey tanis its your Idea maybe you should Post it what you think?

tanisthalon
01-29-2005, 02:29 PM
Mmmm I think its best you do it, I cannot do polls etc. Basically I can type and download ,oh and do the usual upload too http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/graduate.gif.
If you want you can pay homage to me somehow, like give me an all round ticket to miss going to hell or somthing http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/evilgrin.gif, I am a goody after all http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/nana.gif.

Zeugma 440
01-29-2005, 06:22 PM
Listening to drunk neighbors stomping and yelling with their hi-fi at max volume http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/curse.gif

Jalk
01-29-2005, 06:47 PM
Zeugma> Good luck ! Va leur dire bonjour avec une hache ^_^

Currently listening Influence of Deep, from Parasite Eve OST... awesome !

Mustela
01-29-2005, 06:47 PM
Baten Kaitos OST - The true mirror

There is some really nice fast-paced songs on this soundtrack.
That Motoi Sakuruba certainly knows whats he is doing :D

Elhaym van Houten
01-30-2005, 03:12 AM
"Zealous Entropy" by Ashane...
nice Chrono Trigger Remix

Zeugma 440
01-30-2005, 04:13 AM
Listening to what I'll submit to the soundtest ! Be prepared ;)

Yume
01-30-2005, 10:54 AM
Lost in Darkness [Hime Shion] - Seiken Densetsu Legend of Mana - Pain the Universe (http://l-egoist.web.infoseek.co.jp/music.html) (scroll a little bit down, its there)

*ultimate headbanging* hell.. this fast and powerfull e-guitar sound is killing my ears.. rocks so extremely >_< *melt*

Greetz, Yume

tanisthalon
01-30-2005, 11:01 AM
The Music Box Collection of Utada Hikaru, partly d/l from Blade Eternal. Can't find it on her website http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/ponder.gif so I presume its a made up collection http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/confused.gif.

* Got the full album. Its very relaxing and will be good when I have rugrats in the future http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biglaugh.gif. Probably wont be everyones cup of tea, but I recommend giving it a try if you are open to other genres of music - its definatley different.

Elhaym van Houten
01-30-2005, 12:18 PM
:) wow, Yume, that link is great....
I always wanted to have a remix of one of the battle themes from Rudra no Hihou
currently listening to "The Spirit Chaser", said remix

eViL bAz
01-30-2005, 10:42 PM
OK Let me check it then Tanis heheheheheh :D

Kilu
01-31-2005, 10:05 AM
Lost in Darkness [Hime Shion] - Seiken Densetsu Legend of Mana - Pain the Universe (http://l-egoist.web.infoseek.co.jp/music.html) (scroll a little bit down, its there)

*ultimate headbanging* hell.. this fast and powerfull e-guitar sound is killing my ears.. rocks so extremely >_< *melt*

Greetz, Yume
I'm listening to these right now. And... I can't say how disappointed I am with the tinny guitar sound. And the music is quite cheesy as well. I mean sure, there is nothing wrong with leatherpants power metal teuton approach on game music, except that everyone else does it as well. Everyone else just does it better.

If anyone else is in need of a change from generic powermetal stuff, get Cursed Bloodline from Castlevania 2 by Dennis (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2811) from vgmix.

edit:
Holy cheesecake batman. Now that I have listened every song from that page, I gotta say that man, there is not much creativity in any of these songs. It's like taking the original song and putting some tinny rhythm guitar on the back to make it more metal. And playing some "metal drums" instead of the original beats. That fast-tom-fill gets pretty old quite fast when it's used on every damn fill on every damn song.

Yume
01-31-2005, 11:35 AM
I'm listening to these right now. And... I can't say how disappointed I am with the tinny guitar sound. And the music is quite cheesy as well. I mean sure, there is nothing wrong with leatherpants power metal teuton approach on game music, except that everyone else does it as well. Everyone else just does it better.

If anyone else is in need of a change from generic powermetal stuff, get Cursed Bloodline from Castlevania 2 by Dennis (http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2811) from vgmix.

edit:
Holy cheesecake batman. Now that I have listened every song from that page, I gotta say that man, there is not much creativity in any of these songs. It's like taking the original song and putting some tinny rhythm guitar on the back to make it more metal. And playing some "metal drums" instead of the original beats. That fast-tom-fill gets pretty old quite fast when it's used on every damn fill on every damn song. Its a question of own taste and a question how good the basic tune is. This topic is for what people are listening at the moment, so it means also what people personally like. So I wont give a statement. Anyway, I dont even know if this topic here is a place for critics. Music itself is Art.. a remix with bad quality and newbielike samples/effects/whatever can also be art. Not the variety of well done samples, effects, etc is making a good remix. For example.. OC Remix's Dj Pretzel.. he's a genius, technically.. but in my opinion 90% of his done music simply... sucks, well.. for my taste.
Anyway.. this piece of Legend of Mana isnt very often remixed. Its okay if you dislike it.. but instead of posting a castlevania track, it would be better if you had posted a better Pain the Universe track, if you feel to make some critics. Like above.. its the melody and not how perfect it is done or how many better metal tracks out there.
There is one fact, where I can speak out of my long webdesigner experience. Many people like powerdesigns. I started with loving those.. but nowdays I have shared feelings. simplistic can also be excellent. Its the art of less. I see often poorly done webdesigns with a great idea behind it. Those people are great.. they got so many ideas but not such much talent with photoshop or other applications. Since design and music is both art, theres prolly the same rule für music and remixing :)

Ragnarök Online - Rag All Nightn Long

Greetz, Yume

Elhaym van Houten
02-01-2005, 04:49 AM
:) well....I guess I'm somewhere in between those opinions.
I like a lot of remixes because of their great quality, and I also started liking music styles I never had any connection with before....(like that Castlevania remix you posted there, Kilu - that's never been my kind of music, but still, I like it, and I aprreciate the skill that went into creating it :) ...or a few pieces from DJ Pretzel)
but I also appreciate remixes for tunes that haven't been remixed yet (like the Rudra no Hihou OST) or that are fairly original, but not done quite so professionally.
I have a very high regard for people who are creative in a way that they take their skills and create something...that something doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to show that someone had a good idea and tried to realize it. A few of my favourites in remixes are badly mixed or badly sampled, or both...but I still like them.
:) What it boils down to is personal taste, and what you are looking for in a remix.
That Rudra no Hihou remix isn't one of my favourites, but I give it 2 out of 5 for being good mixed and having I tune I like

Currently listening to Pavement - "Father to a Sister of Thought"

Zeugma 440
02-01-2005, 07:45 AM
That's right, hearing a remix of a good tune that has never been remixed before is a real delight !
For example, when I first heard this VGMix submission of "Sewers Trippin'" (Chrono Trigger - "Underground Sewers") I thought it was incredible, although the quality wasn't that exceptional. In that case, two things made me keep that track in my collection : the fact that this tune is seldomly remixed, and above all, the fact that you do hear the remixers had fun in making their track. Same goes for this "FF4 Love theme / Eye of the Tiger" remix that has been released a while ago :rofl:

Marona
02-01-2005, 08:16 AM
Violent Emotion from Phantom Brave :p

Kilu
02-01-2005, 01:19 PM
Why is it that everytime I express my opinion everyone else starts defending their own? Am I so hostile on expressing it that you really feel the need to defend yours? I'm not just talking about this particular case, because lately the same thing has been happening in vgmix as well. I know I'm direct and probably quite harsh, but I have always been like that, I don't like to sugarcoat anything. But lately it has been just weird.

I mean, artists at vgmix should appreciate critique right? Sometimes it seems that as soon as I open my mouth the artist takes it personally and makes a direct attack towards me and my own pieces. Like,
"Kilu: I think your drums need more variation a punch."
"Random Artist nro.67: Oh yeah? I don't think they need to be like drums in your tracks."
Like that has anything to do with anything. Maybe I'm too blunt?

Well that was a bit offtopic.

Anyway, as I said, you don't need to defend your opinion. I respect it as much I respect the next persons. Eventhough I sometimes come of as a harsh asshole doesn't mean that I am one. Or does it :dance:

Also, I think it's better if people would give some comments about the music they listen to, instead of just raising their post count :D

And, I think the original Pain the Universe is superior to this remix, so I don't really feel the need to hunt down another Pain the Universe mix to compare it to.
[/rant]

Listening to some Sonata Arctica.
I'm not too fond with the newest album. Seems like a grower.

Zeugma 440
02-02-2005, 01:40 AM
Kilu, I believe you've been too depreciative in your critique, that's why other people reacted to it. Try and be more constructive when you review a song. Personally, I have nothing against 'attacks' such as these. They're a form of review like any other, right ?

-Listening to "Tekiki Shuurai", from Gundam Seed OST by Toshihiko Sahashi-

Elhaym van Houten
02-02-2005, 01:52 AM
hmmm...you know, Kilu, I didn't feel like defending
:D I rather felt invited to state my own opinion :)
I think it's the effect a strong opinion has on me - it makes me think about my own point of view, and makes me evaluate the aspects where we agree and the aspects where my opinion differs.
I don't think you're harsh asshole, btw....but a bit blunt and very direct sometimes (which isn't really bad :D)

I agree that it would be nice to say a few lines about the music you're listening to right now.

I'm listening to "Look for me (I'll be around)" by Neko Case...
I love the sentimental feeling of this song, and she has a grand voice...
I'm not sure what style of music it is, though.
Oh, and she is not Japanese (and her name is not cat :D )

Marona
02-02-2005, 05:42 AM
Why is it that everytime I express my opinion everyone else starts defending their own? Am I so hostile on expressing it that you really feel the need to defend yours? I'm not just talking about this particular case, because lately the same thing has been happening in vgmix as well. I know I'm direct and probably quite harsh, but I have always been like that, I don't like to sugarcoat anything. But lately it has been just weird.

I mean, artists at vgmix should appreciate critique right? Sometimes it seems that as soon as I open my mouth the artist takes it personally and makes a direct attack towards me and my own pieces. Like,
"Kilu: I think your drums need more variation a punch."
"Random Artist nro.67: Oh yeah? I don't think they need to be like drums in your tracks."
Like that has anything to do with anything. Maybe I'm too blunt?

Well that was a bit offtopic.

Anyway, as I said, you don't need to defend your opinion. I respect it as much I respect the next persons. Eventhough I sometimes come of as a harsh asshole doesn't mean that I am one. Or does it :dance:

Also, I think it's better if people would give some comments about the music they listen to, instead of just raising their post count :D

And, I think the original Pain the Universe is superior to this remix, so I don't really feel the need to hunt down another Pain the Universe mix to compare it to.
[/rant]

Listening to some Sonata Arctica.
I'm not too fond with the newest album. Seems like a grower.
i respect everyone's opinion.some people don't because its like they wanna support whats right.And ignoring that they need to understand people's opinions.bit off topic.i know.felt like posting that :p

Kilu
02-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Kilu, I believe you've been too depreciative in your critique, that's why other people reacted to it. Try and be more constructive when you review a song.
I don't really know why I should have been more contructive in here as the artist will not see it and thus my comment, whatever they might be, will have no effect in the improvement of those sounds. If I'm directing my criticism to the artist, I'm much more detailed on what is wrong in the song and what should be done to fix it. In here I see no point in doing that. In here I just say what's wrong with the song/s and why I don't like it/them. Just yesterday I gave some useful (hopefully, anyway) hints for DocOwer (RPG-O-Mania head honcho, some of you may know the site) about his newest music piece. I saw that it was worth of my time to suggest improvements because I knew he would see them.

hmmm...you know, Kilu, I didn't feel like defending
:D
Well, that part of my post was actually more or less directed towards Yume and vgmix (not that anyone in there will actually see it :D )

What baffles me the most is that Yume seemed to take my post kind of personally, as if I had insulted his music taste by not liking the music he liked.


Listening to The Longest Journey Soundtrack by Bjørn Arve Lagim. This is pretty awesome.

daniel
02-02-2005, 05:12 PM
Allow me to jump in. I have often stated opinion is an illusion in some cases and that is true I stick by it.

I have stated my opinion as fact in many cases also but I got blasted for that. I have argued with Kilu before over my opinion on something, Infact my vgm taste is mostly opposite to Kilu but although I think his opinion is crap on alot of stuff I still believe good debate on something is nice even if I don't ever agree.

Kilu I have to say usually states his opinion frankly, i dunno whether he respects others he seems to (alot more than me but i don't care). I much prefer someone to say it how they feel than to feel bad because others don't agree.

I say it now. FF7 is the best game, Nobuo the best game composer. Wanna argue? You betcha

EDIT: on remixes sorry to say I agree with kilu (for a change) they are a waste of time and talent (unless they are remixed by the original composer who appreciates his music) . They serve no purpose. I rate them the same as i do copies. A copy is just someone playing someone elses tune with a slightly different arrangement. It does nothing.

But however much i hate someones opiniona dn call it crap, I could not live without opinion I suppose:) so lets keep the debate even if u all gang up on me......that would be fun

listening to my domestic fan cooling my computer again

eViL bAz
02-02-2005, 05:46 PM
Ok I will no discuss now hehehehe

Listening Chant~ Genso Suikoden Celtic Collection 2 I love this Track It has all for me

Elhaym van Houten
02-03-2005, 02:42 AM
I don't want to argue, since I don't want you to change your opinion...keep it. Same as with Kilu's opinion, I don't often argue for someone to change their personal taste.

I'm currently listening to "Smog Moon" by Matthew Sweet from the album 100% Fun
^^ again a more sentimental song. I like the lyrics a lot
"there's a lost man, with a bitter soul...only for a moment did life make him whole...."
*...starts singing along *

Marona
02-03-2005, 06:03 AM
for those who always direspect other's opinion,to me theyre not mature to 'understanding others on internet'.Well thats my opinion...better respect that :p

Currently listening to:FF10-Otherworld

ckonze
02-03-2005, 09:58 AM
eViL bAz is hooking me up with all the arranged Suikoden music. After I get all of that, you can be guaranteed I'll be listening to that until the cows come home.

Right this second, I'm listening to this: http://www.rpgamers.info/showthread.php?t=240

Kilu
02-03-2005, 10:55 AM
on remixes sorry to say I agree with kilu (for a change) they are a waste of time and talent (unless they are remixed by the original composer who appreciates his music) . They serve no purpose. I rate them the same as i do copies. A copy is just someone playing someone elses tune with a slightly different arrangement. It does nothing.
I'm not saying that remixes are worthless. Why else would I be hanging around vgmix and have couple tracks up myself? :dance: I'm saying that these particular cases are pretty straight copies concerning that the style, idea, notes, tempo... are pretty much the same. They are more covers than remixes. And have a whole lot space for improvement production wise. That is all.


Listening to River City Ransom EX gsf. I prefer the original NES musics anyday over this.

silverDistortioN
02-03-2005, 12:52 PM
I don't want to argue, since I don't want you to change your opinion...keep it. Same as with Kilu's opinion, I don't often argue for someone to change their personal taste.i find debate a healthy means of furthering both parties' understanding of a subject. i, for one, am curious to learn what people think is wrong with FF7 music. (actually, FF7 in general, but "music" keeps it on topic. >.>)

Zeugma 440
02-03-2005, 12:54 PM
Listening to Global Underground - New York (Disc 1) by Paul Oakenfold.

It's not a liveset this time, but a clean studio mix. Less upbeat and very nice so far...

Kilu
02-03-2005, 01:59 PM
i find debate a healthy means of furthering both parties' understanding of a subject. i, for one, am curious to learn what people think is wrong with FF7 music. (actually, FF7 in general, but "music" keeps it on topic. >.>)
It's quite banal, as is most of the Nobuo Uematsus music.

ckonze
02-03-2005, 02:17 PM
Not to brag....well....maybe a little bit, but guess what I've got tickets for?

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0400398AA9861B7C?brand=&artistid=950969&majorcatid=10002&minorcatid=203

Zeugma 440
02-03-2005, 03:15 PM
Boston Pops playing FF music ? Jeez, lucky you !!
Oh well, even if I had the money I'm not on the right continent http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

- listening to "Kyouki ~ Hishou", from Porco Rosso OST, by Joe Hisaishi -

ckonze
02-03-2005, 03:19 PM
Not only that, Nobuo will be there conducting.

silverDistortioN
02-03-2005, 04:45 PM
It's quite banal, as is most of the Nobuo Uematsus music.in that case, where else can one find a sound similar to FF7's?

Elhaym van Houten
02-04-2005, 02:02 PM
I'm currently listening to one of Spellforce's bombastic battle themes playing in the background, and Uroks branding against a wall of archery towers...
the soundtrack is ok, but it reminds me a lot of The Lord of the Rings...
same as the style of the game

Kilu
02-04-2005, 02:06 PM
Well actually, there is nothing really wrong in FF7 soundtrack in the context of the game itself, it just doesn't work for me without that context. The note progression is rather boring, uninteresting. It doesn't have any hooks that would keep me listening. I don't know Uematsus way to make music, but it sounds like he does the backing first and the figures the lead in it. Which often makes the lead melody quite weak.

By banal I actually refer more to Uematsu in general, rather than FF7 specifically, and by it I mean predictable, not similar.
When I first heard Uematsu (FF7) I thought that the musics were tight shit. After that I decided to get to know his music more, which then lead me to notice that most of his music is quite predictable. Ever had the feeling "haven't iheard this before" when you hear a song? I have had this quite often when it comes to Uematsus work. Playing FFX i suddenly hear a song that was used in FF8, but alas, it was not. The songs basic structure is so similar that it's ridicilous. He is also one of the composers that re-uses his existing work. No, I don't mean whole songs, but bits and pieces here and there. Everyone does this sometimes, I mean it's bound to happen, it just seems most noticable with Uematsu (another artist that I usually pick this stuff up is Motoi Sakuraba). Probably something to do with the song structure thing I mentioned earlier.

One of the most overrated vgm composers if you ask me. So don't ask :D The man has had a great influence in the japanese vgm world, no one can really deny that, and has his highlights as well. Not just too many.

[/rant?]

Listening to Tales of Rebirth OST by Motoi Sakuraba and Shinji Tamura.

Ephraim
02-04-2005, 05:01 PM
Debates are a good thing, mostly. I just don't like getting involved, as I tend to take things personally, and get mad.

I liked FF7, and Uematsu's work in general (look, now I'm getting involved. Oops.)

Listening to: Sprint Canada internet customers with problems with their internet (or their minds).

Marona
02-04-2005, 05:47 PM
Debates are a good thing, mostly. I just don't like getting involved, as I tend to take things personally, and get mad.

I liked FF7, and Uematsu's work in general (look, now I'm getting involved. Oops.)

Listening to: Sprint Canada internet customers with problems with their internet (or their minds).
nobuo is the master of vgm music...he made the best music though on ff9 and ff6 and ff7

listening to:Chrono Cross-Dragon's Prayer

Ephraim
02-04-2005, 05:57 PM
My personal faves are mostly from FF1, but I loove the orchestrated ending theme from FF8 & 9. :D Beautiful. It was also in FF1, which is part of the reason I love it. Nostalgia perhaps?

silverDistortioN
02-04-2005, 06:20 PM
By banal I actually refer more to Uematsu in general, rather than FF7 specifically, and by it I mean predictable, not similar.(i figured you meant either FF7 is banal among games in general, or it's banal by Uematsu's standards... i went for the former cuz it never really came off to me as plain ol' Uematsu music. anyway...)

actually, i feel the same about much of Uematsu's work (*most* of the music in *most* of the games he does, that is), but i really thought FF7 stood out.

but to some extent, i almost agree with you about the tracks lacking hooks... though that's something i find particularly appealing in FF7. you don't have those catchy segments you go around whistling all day cuz you can't get some melody out of your head.

however, i will have to disagree with your comment on poor note progression... in my opinion, it is simply superb. maybe it's not what you'd compare to godsmack or foo fighters, but the notes here just seem to flow so well into each other... it's auditory grace at its finest.

ckonze
02-04-2005, 06:49 PM
Just downloaded a couple Ongakushu albums. Listening to those and loving it.

Maxin
02-05-2005, 01:30 AM
Nobuo's music was really the first video game music that I was exposed to (FF6), so I guess I'm a bit biased. I mean, I do like *most* of his works. I do agree that he does tend to repeat certain aspects in his songs. But I wonder if he does this to establish a sort of theme or memory? I mean, of course, reusing a melody or musical phrase (or motive (motif?)) throughout one game is common. That motive (motif?) is usually indicative of a character (so you'll hear that musical phrase whenever that character is involved in something that drives the plot) or a special moment. So I can assume that's why you'll hear Nobuo repeat certain musical strains throughout one game.

But if he's repeating musical phrases in different games (excluding the Prelude and ending songs), then he's getting lazy http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biggrin.gif. Or old...whichever.

And my favorite pieces from FFX weren't written by Nobuo. So yeah...

Now to stay on topic, I am listening to three jazz arrangements of F-Zero songs I found from somewhere. I must have downloaded them a long time ago, as I don't know who did them or what album it's from...

Kilu
02-05-2005, 08:54 AM
More Tales of Rebirth OST by Motoi Sakuraba and Shinji Tamura. Far from their best work.

Marona
02-05-2005, 09:35 AM
meh im gettting some tales of music soon

listening to: Disgaea-The Invasion from Within <3

Zeugma 440
02-05-2005, 11:15 AM
Listening "Black Out", by Ryousuke Takahashi, from Initial D Vocal Battle

If you listen to this without paying attention to what he really sings, he seems to sing "baka, bakaaa..." :D

Marona
02-05-2005, 11:58 AM
Listening "Black Out", by Ryousuke Takahashi, from Initial D Vocal Battle

If you listen to this without paying attention to what he really sings, he seems to sing "baka, bakaaa..." :D
for 'I think I can' from flcl,if you doze off,you can hear them say'miney moe'like from eene miney moe :p

listening to:Final Fantasy 9-Song of Memories

silverDistortioN
02-05-2005, 01:13 PM
Nobuo's music was really the first video game music that I was exposed to (FF6), so I guess I'm a bit biased. I mean, I do like *most* of his works. I do agree that he does tend to repeat certain aspects in his songs. But I wonder if he does this to establish a sort of theme or memory? I mean, of course, reusing a melody or musical phrase (or motive (motif?)) throughout one game is common. That motive (motif?) is usually indicative of a character (so you'll hear that musical phrase whenever that character is involved in something that drives the plot) or a special moment. So I can assume that's why you'll hear Nobuo repeat certain musical strains throughout one game.

But if he's repeating musical phrases in different games (excluding the Prelude and ending songs), then he's getting lazy http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biggrin.gif. Or old...whichever.it's not that he's repeating musical phrases... think of it like rap. you get songs with supposedly completely different melodies and beats, yet you always come out with the same sound.

tanisthalon
02-05-2005, 01:21 PM
Chobits OST 002, really liked the few anime episodes and got and was immediately hooked :).

Marona
02-05-2005, 02:05 PM
it's not that he's repeating musical phrases... think of it like rap. you get songs with supposedly completely different melodies and beats, yet you always come out with the same sound.
i didnt notice anything like that...

listening to: FLCL-Ride on Shooting Star

Kilu
02-05-2005, 02:18 PM
i didnt notice anything like that...
Trained Ears™ :dance: Or something.

Listening to The Longest Journey Score. This is so brilliant. Bjørn Arve Lagim is awesome, I want more of his work. Though I have no idea what he has done, maybe I should find out :D

Marona
02-05-2005, 02:28 PM
Trained Ears™ :dance: Or something.
yeh...i only thought ff6 music had same tune.like in gau's theme you hear the flute...and in terra's theme.you hear it too.

listening to:FF6-Terra's Theme

Maxin
02-05-2005, 11:42 PM
it's not that he's repeating musical phrases... think of it like rap. you get songs with supposedly completely different melodies and beats, yet you always come out with the same sound.
Hahaha. That's true. All rap sounds the same to me. Which is why I have no interest to listen to it whatsoever.

But I think the reason why it's easier for rap to sound the same is because it's more rhythmic than melodic. The only variation is the beat and rhythm. With melodic music, you have the added variation of note modulation. So, to me, Nobuo's work doesn't necessarily sound completely the same when you listen to the songs. But he does use certain passages over and over in other songs.

I don't really know if my point is clear or not. I'm kind of tired, and when I'm tired my brain doesn't process properly.

Listening to the Carbon Leaf album "Indian Summer". Good ole rock.

silverDistortioN
02-06-2005, 12:10 AM
But I think the reason why it's easier for rap to sound the same is because it's more rhythmic than melodic. The only variation is the beat and rhythm. With melodic music, you have the added variation of note modulation. So, to me, Nobuo's work doesn't necessarily sound completely the same when you listen to the songs. But he does use certain passages over and over in other songs.

I don't really know if my point is clear or not. I'm kind of tired, and when I'm tired my brain doesn't process properly.it makes perfect sense... not that i necessarily agree with you, however.

if you compare different rap songs back to back, you'll notice the major differences. yes, they are more rhythmic than melodic, but there is still a certain degree of variance in the beat. otherwise those people who do like rap would never buy new CD's. and the same goes for Uematsu... just on a different scale.

Locke Cole
02-06-2005, 12:30 AM
Right now I'm listening to the traffic go by. There isn't much, as its 12:30AM, but thats about all I can hear.. I'd listen to some music but I don't want to wake my sisters, they are visiting for the weekend. I have been listening to a lot of Disgaea/La Pucelle Tactics/Phantom Brave music lately, its catchy :)

Zeugma 440
02-06-2005, 03:20 AM
Listening to "Walk This Way (Full Size Version)", by Koizumi Hiroshi & Fields, from Eat-man Image Soundtrack Act 2

The instrumental tracks on this album are by Yuki Kajiura. She used way more acoustic guitar than in her other compositions, which gives this OST an unique sound.

Kilu
02-06-2005, 05:04 AM
Some random Nightwish music. Even the older Nightwish albums never get old :D

Yuffie
02-06-2005, 06:19 AM
I have a headache...doesn't stop me listening to "1000 words" karaoke version and singing along though! :D

Kinda sucks doing the duet part as a solo...but ah well! :D
*screeches it out*

Chaos
02-06-2005, 11:27 AM
I'm now listening to DJ Pavo - Hardstyel. Nice music.:)

Maxin
02-06-2005, 01:25 PM
it makes perfect sense... not that i necessarily agree with you, however.

if you compare different rap songs back to back, you'll notice the major differences. yes, they are more rhythmic than melodic, but there is still a certain degree of variance in the beat. otherwise those people who do like rap would never buy new CD's. and the same goes for Uematsu... just on a different scale.
I think I'll spend a day in the future just listening to Nobuo's music. That might help me out. I should also think about getting more videogame music, too, so I can compare with other artists. I've a novice when it comes to videogame music.

Now listening to some Chinese opera music that my roommate owns. It's different, to say the least...

Marona
02-06-2005, 01:32 PM
I think I'll spend a day in the future just listening to Nobuo's music. That might help me out. I should also think about getting more videogame music, too, so I can compare with other artists. I've a novice when it comes to videogame music.

Now listening to some Chinese opera music that my roommate owns. It's different, to say the least...
lol i imagine you listening it for 24 hours :p

listening to: Hey you pikachu-Hello!

eViL bAz
02-07-2005, 02:12 PM
Listening The Resurrection from Xenosaga EP.1 Excellent vocals and arrangments

Zeugma 440
02-07-2005, 04:43 PM
Xenosaga Episode I is #1 on my list. I cannot describe how awesome it is.
Basically, it's _just_ Mitsuda trying to compose Hollywood-like music, but the encounter between his personal style and the epic genre has produced something unique.

*listening to "World to be Born", from Xenosaga Episode I OST -- jeez, this one still gives me gooseflesh :D *

Maxin
02-07-2005, 11:24 PM
lol i imagine you listening it for 24 hours :p
Hmm...maybe next time I have insomnia on a weekend...

Listening to: Some Super Mario Brothers 3 "redone" songs. I have no idea who did them or where they are from, but I found them on an old CD of mine.

Ephraim
02-08-2005, 02:46 PM
Was listening to Pat Metheney Group, excellent stuff. I'm tempted to call it jazz, but I don't really know.

Now listening to a Sprint Canada customer.

Marona
02-08-2005, 04:15 PM
hum maxin you might get the nobuo uematsu disease

listening to:chrono cross-Time's Scar

eViL bAz
02-08-2005, 05:19 PM
excellent marona I love that track I recomeded to you HOPEFUL WEED I have it you know where

Listenining: Time Scar from Hopeful Weed CHRONO CROSS

bjp4444
02-08-2005, 05:56 PM
i haven't been able to take the FF x-2 piano version out of my car cd player for a while. but i don't if it's beacuse i really like it or if i'm really lazy.

go pistons!
-bjp

Starfox37
02-08-2005, 06:25 PM
I'm listening to a clip of one of the tracks from the F-Zero GX Soundtrack.

Marona
02-08-2005, 06:48 PM
i haven't been able to take the FF x-2 piano version out of my car cd player for a while. but i don't if it's beacuse i really like it or if i'm really lazy.

go pistons!
-bjp
hum i dont think i have that piano version of ffx2...i should get it...or maybe i have it already.heh hard to keep up with soundtracks :p

listening to: breath of fire 2-decadence of god

Zeugma 440
02-09-2005, 01:41 AM
"Warcraft III Cinematic Suite", by Jason Hayes, from Warcraft III OST

Jalk
02-09-2005, 03:17 AM
Currently listening Gesshoku Grand Guignol (Avenger opening)... the kind of song which makes you want to jump everywhere ^_^

Kilu> Hell yeah ! Nightwish power ! :D

daniel
02-09-2005, 03:40 AM
Other than kilu I have yet to find anyone who criticizes Uematsu so harshly. With a loyal following and the tag "the john williams of vgm" I find it staggering that Kilu can dismiss Uematsu's work as repetative / banal or whatever.

I can think of no other composer that has made so many memorable melodies and got the tone of a game so right. There is no other game composer that I can see that even fringes upon his genius. I am not biased, I have 10GB or more of VGM but listening to half of that I just think it does not compare to him. There are a few other games besdies the FF series that I think had nice/great soundtracks but Uematsu is in my opinion far far ahead in terms of melody and the shear volume of great work he has released.

I think Kilu's attacks on nobuo are pretty harsh and somewhat ridiculous, I would challenge another composer to work on as many final fantasy's as nobuo and try and make each tune totally unique, i'ts very hard. Still I have not noticed many simularities in his music, apart from the obvious tunes like chocobo themes etc....but in the end the guy is racking 80 tunes a game more or less so give the guy a break haha

I totally enjoy his music, there is no composer I can listen to more than him game wise and for me personally that is a fact. Also don't forget he has released classics like Celtic moon and various other variations. For god's sake he even has a rock/metal band. Kilu didn't like Black mages album either...I say moo to him:)

Listening to the computer fan again, and the above comment was not an attack on you kilu, just your opinion (and i mean no offense), I don't want this to get out of hand like it did last time (admittedly my fault last time;) ). I am just putting forward what I think on this subject and also the atacks that nobuo suffers (from you especially) - anyway on with debate

ckonze
02-09-2005, 09:50 AM
Wild Arms Alter Code F OST

Zeugma 440
02-09-2005, 11:12 AM
Jeez, daniel, what do you have in mind ? After reading your post, I read Kilu's review about Uematsu one more time, and I have to say that the attacker is you again, not Kilu. I think his first paragraph was aimed at shocking you, so that you read the 2nd one : the real review.

...and now that the debate is still running, I have to give my opinion as well :D

Uematsu has been composing several hundred melodies, battle themes, village themes, airship themes (...) basically for the same series of games, and for a very long time.
Let's not hide it, he obviously uses bits of his previous compositions to create new ones : listen to "Find your Way" & "Blitz Off !", "Celes' Theme" and "Aerith' Theme"...

Granted, his melodies are catchy because they're glued in your head after hours of playing the game where the music comes from. They sound simple, easy to memorize at first hearing, but seem to be more complex if you go beyond the main melody. This is where I agree with Kilu. Even if lead melodies and instruments seem to be different in each song, background stuff is sometimes curiously similar from one album to the other :)

IMO, Nobuo's skill lies in that : making memorable melodies, easy to understand and elaborate at the same time.

I won't say anything about the rest of your opinion, daniel, because everyone has his own.


- Currently listening to 11 students typing and clicking ;) -

Kilu
02-09-2005, 11:49 AM
Blitz Off! is by Hamauzu btw :D Did you mean some other Blitz related song maybe?

And Daniel, everyone is biased one way or another.


Listening to System of a Down, Steal this Album!

bjp4444
02-09-2005, 04:25 PM
yeah, on the ffx2, i really enjoy "demise" and "cave of nightmares", FYI

i will strive to put something new in today though, perhaps either my best of james bond, eminem, or the 20020220 concert. who knows?

***actually decided on potion 2***

go pistons!
-bjp

daniel
02-10-2005, 01:28 AM
zeugma I was not commenting on kilu's response on this thread but on all threads there is a total dislike for anything nobuo. that is my observation and that was what I was replying to. I was attacking his opinion not just his response on here. I can accept people disliking some of his works...but not a total dismissal

Listening to Overworld from Mario world:), always have the tunes in winamp set to random

Zeugma 440
02-10-2005, 02:03 AM
Blitz Off! is by Hamauzu btw :D Did you mean some other Blitz related song maybe?
Nope, but I forgot that this one wasn't by Uematsu. Listen to the background music starting at 1:54, then listen to the first seconds of Force Your Way... :D

- Currently listening to Force Your Way, from Black Mages I -

eViL bAz
02-10-2005, 10:53 AM
Rpgamers VOTE IN THE TOP 10!!!!hehehehe

Listening: Withered Earth from Genso Suikogaiden 2Excellent especially in the Orizzonte version but this one its tooo good

Maxin
02-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Evil country music on the lab radio! AAH!

*Jumps head first out of his 5th floor window*

Kilu
02-10-2005, 01:40 PM
but not a total dismissal
Again you are trying to put words in my mouth. I have said numerous times that the man has his moments. I believe that it qualifies as a nondismissing comment.

Listening to more System of a Down.

Mustela
02-10-2005, 05:38 PM
I'm currently listening to "Like a glint of light" from Tales of Symphonia soundtrack.
Just can't get enough of this happiness in audio form :D

daniel
02-10-2005, 11:41 PM
"that the man has his moments"

Understatement.

Listening to Atomic by Blondie

and zeugma, you prooved my theory. He isn't really repetative it is your imagination and also the fact that there will be by chance a number of notes that "repeat"....for instance people will say that Uematsu and another composer such like on FFX sound the same, totally not realising that the piece is by 2 different people. That is the underlining fact

Zeugma 440
02-11-2005, 09:26 AM
Listening to "Knowledge of self", by BT, from Emotional Technology

BT's music is a great mix between the trance and hip-hop genres. Cool stuff :D

ckonze
02-11-2005, 07:36 PM
I'm listening to Genso Suikoden Celtic Collection. Oh man...."If You Listen Carefully" is a masterpiece. All I need is that on loop. All thanks to eViL bAz. You are the man!

Frogbutt
02-12-2005, 02:12 AM
1, 2 step by Ciara lol

Zeugma 440
02-12-2005, 08:35 AM
Listening to "Ditch The Car (Selby Discovers)", by BT, from Music From And Inspired By The Film Monster

tanisthalon
02-13-2005, 05:28 AM
Chobits 002, I know its sad.........but I love the anime.........wish I had a persocom also http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/embarassedlaugh.gif.

bjp4444
02-13-2005, 12:29 PM
still have potion 2 in, i love that version of fisherman's horizon.

go pistons!
-bjp

Yojimbo
02-13-2005, 03:31 PM
I have read the recent posts and there is no doubt in my mind that all you Uematsu haters are totally wrong.

The man is a legend how can he not be the best, he is the next best thing to God, or maybe he is God (it wouldnt surprise me).

Long live Uematsu and all those who love him.

silverDistortioN
02-13-2005, 05:34 PM
I have read the recent posts and there is no doubt in my mind that all you Uematsu haters are totally wrong. and i suppose this is because your opinion, unlike the rest of ours, is absolute, correct?

The man is a legend how can he not be the best, he is the next best thing to God, or maybe he is God (it wouldnt surprise me). now, i realize i may be mistaken in thinking Uematsu is a mediocre composer... but i certainly have no regrets in choosing not to worship him.

daniel
02-14-2005, 04:15 AM
No the absolute opinion (aka fact) is mine remember. ;)

Listening to Starlight Zone Sonic 1

Kilu
02-14-2005, 10:24 AM
I have read the recent posts and there is no doubt in my mind that all you Uematsu haters are totally wrong.
This is funny because everyone who says anything against Uematsus music is immediately an "Uematsu hater" and is "totally dismissing" his work.

On the contrary. I can tolerate and even like most of Uematsus music. But that's just not enough after hearing Yoshitaka Hirota, Christophe Heral and Hitoshi Sakimoto for example. These musicians work I love, every piece I have heard from them.

Listening to Spirited Away OST by Joe Hisaishi. Best anime composer if you ask me. Yes, I have heard Yoko Kanno, but nothing spectacular from her... nope.

Yuffie
02-14-2005, 12:00 PM
The tune at the start of FFVII that plays while you're updating people here until you go back and decide to load the game.

daniel
02-14-2005, 12:32 PM
well kilu, yojimbo may have gone over the top with the god thing, but half or more of your comments seem to say that you dislike most of uematsu's work....I don't think you hate Uematsu. I dunno just seems that you don't see in uematsu what most people see. I have not lisened to some of the music you have but I bet if i did i would think it was bland like some of the other ost's like tactics.

Uematsu is here to stay, them composers you just said are mostly unknowns and will fade into obscurity.

Listening to the BBC snooker commentary

Yuffie
02-14-2005, 06:02 PM
An update on my earlier post...

I never actually got round to loading the game, but I've only just switched it off. :rofl:

Zeugma 440
02-15-2005, 07:02 AM
I have not lisened to some of the music you have but I bet if i did i would think it was bland like some of the other ost's like tactics.
http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/bigeyes.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/bigeyes.gif *falls from his seat*


*back on the seat, reading the rest*

Uematsu is here to stay, them composers you just said are mostly unknowns and will fade into obscurity.
:amazed::amazed::amazed::amazed: *falls from his seat again*





*back on the seat one more time*
*sighs*
*decides not to say anything, since the quotes speak by themselves*

daniel
02-15-2005, 07:43 AM
by unknowns I am referring to the fact that outside die hard game music loving fans nearly ever composer except uematsu is an unknown. Uematsu is by far the most known, again for a reason. Some of tactics music is nice but overall it lacks, and is nothing compared to FF6-10

Listening to Computer fan again

Yojimbo
02-15-2005, 09:12 AM
the evidence is there to prove me and Daniel are correct here, you listen to the ost of lets say FF8 (10 out of 10), and then listen to the ost of ffx-2 (-10 out of 10), Uematsu was the composer for FF8 and the 'unknowns' did FF10-2, and it is clear for all to see that Uematsu's themes were better, unless you guys love the music from FF10-2 (which you probably do).

silverDistortioN
02-15-2005, 11:49 AM
what about bunbun? everyone knows bunbun. he did megaman 3.
...and megaman 3's music totally beats the tar out of FF8's.

and, as we all know, the best score ever produced for a video game was used in megaman 2, composed by multiple artists, but, of course, none of them were uematsu. so what can we take out of this? naturally, there are at least four composers better than uematsu.

in summation... the only thing that makes a composer unknown is ignorance.

daniel
02-15-2005, 12:31 PM
don't be ridiculous, bunbun did some very nice work on megaman 3, its in my top 20 atleast no denying it was good. but sad to say u can hardly compare the sound of the nes to the grand scale of the orchestra sounding FF8 tunes. I would hardly say that megaman 3 is anywhere near the genius of ff8......

The melodies are great on Megaman 3 but FF8 worse than megaman 3....just no

Yojimbo
02-15-2005, 12:32 PM
but, of course, none of them were uematsu
The above was said sarcastically by the way,and Kilu says none of you are Uematsu haters, yeah Kilu, yeah.

Even though mega man 3 has 'good' music, it cannot compare to FF8, your talking out of your ****. FF8 is almost as good as FF7 and if it can be that good then mega man doesnt look so 'mega' anymore does it now

Kilu
02-15-2005, 12:33 PM
:ponder:
Tim Follin pwns every other composer there is :nana: Too bad he doesn't do music anymore. I wonder where did he go. Maybe he died or something :( Last I heard he did some Ecco game for Dreamcast a good while back.

Also, I have listened more music than you guys so ultimately I must be right because I have been exposed to bigger range of styles and composers, right? Because I'm the ultimate master of Golden Ears™ Super Combo Club, where we only listen to avant-garde.


The last thing I'm going to say about this is:
We all have the right to our opinions and the right to expressing them, and even if someone don't agree with someone elses, it doesn't mean that anyone should put someone elses opinions down by saying that someone is correct while someone else is not. That's not cool at all. My opinion is not better than your, while your opinion is not better than mine. They are just different.


Listening to Anssi Tikanmäki.

Elhaym van Houten
02-15-2005, 12:43 PM
^^ I don't know any of the Rockman soundtracks
but I agree on your statement about ignorance, Silver.

Uematsu isn't best known because he is best, but simply because Square is good at marketing their soundtracks. His name got associated with Final Fantasy, and Final Fantasy was their most succesful series, one that made it to the western world long before other good RPGs did - yet again good marketing.
Since Final Fantasy 7, the series became some sort of a mass phenomenon (yet again achieved with the help of good marketing) - so it's not really surprising a lot of people know his name.

And none of these reasons why his name is known to sooo many has anything to do with him being the best composer of videogame music. Not a single one of them.

I like a lot of his music, but I also dislike a lot - there are good themes, superb themes, and awful themes done by him. If I were to chose one single soundtrack out of my collection to keep, it wouldn't necessarily be a Uematsu - it might as well be a Mitsuda, a Iwadare, a Sakimoto, a Shimomura, a Sasai...or one of the many others.

Currently listening to my hd - it gives off strange scraping noises o_O

Zeugma 440
02-15-2005, 12:49 PM
Silver> brilliant :)


daniel> but sad to say u can hardly compare the sound of the nes to the grand scale of the orchestra sounding FF8 tunes

Granted, but that is definitely not an argument to use when trying to compare composers ! Saying that this one composed for NES, and the other for PSX does not lead anywhere. We're talking about musical creation, not about sound quality !

- Currently listening to "Young Nobleman of Sadness", from Castlevania Symphony of the Night by Michiru Yamane -

daniel
02-15-2005, 02:50 PM
"Megaman 3 but FF8 worse than megaman 3....just no" <<<that wasn't just my opinion on sound quality, FF8 tunes are better by far, tell me when you find a tune better than The Landing , Force your way and The extreme.

And no, again, clever marketing has little to do with it, the fact is if you put mitsuda etc on the final fantasy team and got rid of uematsu for ff6-10...you would see the difference, and you would know uematsu was the better.

Listening to nothing

Kilu
02-15-2005, 03:41 PM
the evidence is there to prove me and Daniel are correct here, you listen to the ost of lets say FF8 (10 out of 10), and then listen to the ost of ffx-2 (-10 out of 10), Uematsu was the composer for FF8 and the 'unknowns' did FF10-2, and it is clear for all to see that Uematsu's themes were better, unless you guys love the music from FF10-2 (which you probably do).
You call this evidence? It's your opinion for christs sake. I happen to agree with this opinion, FF8 OST is better than FFX-2 OST. But it has no weight in the case at hand.

Uematsu is by far the most known
Irrelevant. If you want to make this a popularity contest though, I might bring out my secret weapon, Britney Spears, who has music on several karaoke games and even has her own game. I'm sure more people know who is Britney Spears than Uematsu.

Some of tactics music is nice but overall it lacks, and is nothing compared to FF6-10
It's funny how you bring up FFT just because you know that I like it.

tell me when you find a tune better than The Landing , Force your way and The extreme.
Uematsu himself has done better songs than those three combined. Say, Path to Redemption for example. Or Electro de Chocobo. Or Judgment Day.

the fact is if you put mitsuda etc on the final fantasy team and got rid of uematsu for ff6-10...you would see the difference, and you would know uematsu was the better.
It's not a fact. No one knows this so it's impossible to be a fact. Hypothesis' are useless anyway. Unless you have invented a time machine of course. In which case I would really like to borrow it. Pretty please.


I have one advice to both of you Daniel and Yojimbo. If you are going to argue your case, be more detailed on why exactly Uematsus music is so fantastic. Saying that "FF8 music is better than FFX2 which means that Uematsu is better than 'unknowns' (oh the ignorance)" is not very solid ground to build anything on. Why is FF8 musics better than MM3 musics?

Yojimbo
02-15-2005, 03:50 PM
Kilu listen, your wrong, your "weapon" Britany Spears is not a composer if you think about it although she would do a better job than the composers you like

daniel
02-15-2005, 03:51 PM
the answer to u is...it is. The way you go on kilu, is like opinions can never be wrong and if i were to take ur meaning of proving something literally we would never get anywhere.
The point you made about FF8 ost being beaten by uematsu himself is irrelevant, i meant as u well know, show me a composer other than the guy who invented the 3 tunes, who has made better ones. Infact show me a composer who has beat ff6-10 full stop (and actually i thought he was rivalled, not bettered though by the other 2 composers, uematsu still did better with original tunes like otherworld, the summoners dance and In zanarkand).

Yes I did choose tactics deliberately.

I went through why uematsu is better some time ago as a game composer. I will leave it to yojimbo to put his own case forward

Ahhh I leave this debate now until I can say something new

EDIT: actually i am glad we have differing opinions, crap world otherwise but some things are just too strong to just be opinion. And I think uematsu has made 1 or 2 crap tunes...in the end though, as of now i see no composer on his level, thats my take on it. I leave now ;)

Elhaym van Houten
02-15-2005, 04:11 PM
Hold it!

:dotsign:

...
You know, guys, I would like you all to keep this debate a bit more friendly - especially Yojimbo and Daniel. I don't mind that you state your opinions - there's nothing wrong about them. But please keep in mind that they are just that - opinions.
No way to prove any of them, no way of saying one is better...
and if someone is of a different opinion, you can discuss it all you like, but please be more respectful of the other's opinion.

I think a discussion about why any of you like or dislikie certain themes would be more productive than this bitching around.
And I also think it might be better to have it in another thread then this one - since it is off-topic

Back to topic - I listen to some buddies playing Resident Evil 1 ^^

Yojimbo
02-15-2005, 04:18 PM
your telling us to be 'respectful' but you have just singled the 2 of us out, Kilu is adding things also. We try to keep it a clean argument, but, it is hard when Uematsu's work is being compared to someone called BUNBUN, everyone knows there is no comparison, although this BUNBUN guy may be 'OK' he doesnt compare to Uematsu and by doing so that is an insult

daniel
02-15-2005, 04:18 PM
Differing opinions when ppl are arguing against one anothers opinions is never totally friendly, absurd to think it can be. Exchanging opinions is not arguing or stressing them passionately. I am not bashing the person just strongly opposing the opinion. I have seen however, kilu in the past seeming rather disrespectful of peoples feelings(by that i mean stating his own opinion so strongly it annoys) when he attacks nobuo for instance, that offends me but do I say stop that i don't like i consider it too harsh. Nope cause i know that he feels strongly about his opinion and what a dull world it would be without it.

listening to the keyoard keys and now the worms 2 theme

Kilu
02-15-2005, 04:19 PM
opinions can never be wrong
And that's the only fact you need to know. Opinions are not wrong. You are basing your whole argument over this and you have no idea how ridicilous it makes you look.

show me a coposer other than the guy who invented the 3 tuns, who has made better ones. Infact shoew me a composer who has beat ff6-10 full stop.
Yoshitaka Hirota, Yoko Shimomura, Hitoshi Sakimoto, Yasunori Mitsuda, Motoi Sakuraba, Jeremy Soule, Masashi Hamauzu, Akira Yamanoka, Tim Follin, Michiru Yamane, Yuzo Koshiro, Koichi Sugiyama, Michiko Naruke, Masami Ueda, Miki Higashino, Masashi Hamauzu, Tenpei Sato, Jesper Kyd, Kumi Tanioka, N.EX.T, Geoff Follin, Norihiko Hibino, Michael Giacchino, David Wise, Eveline Fischer, Robin Beanland, Bjorn Arve Lagim, Matt Uelmen, Kenji Ito, Bill Brown, Christophe Heral, Noriyuki Iwadare, Daisuke Ishiwatari... I don't need to go on do I? I mean really? And I did not include any of the NES era musicians in at all.

I went through why uematsu is better some time ago as a game composer.
Well, all you said that you like his music, over and over again. Oh and that "he gets the tone of a game so right", on which I agree, if you look my previous post couple pages back. It fits in the game. Rest of your post was you wondering how can I be so harsh on him and saying "but in the end the guy is racking 80 tunes a game more or less so give the guy a break" which sounds like "he has done so much music that he's bound the get predictable at some point".

In the end, you really did not say why is it that you like his music. What are the qualities that make it so great? It can't be sheer volume can it? You repeat that couple times in the post, so it much be an importanat factor.

daniel
02-15-2005, 04:24 PM
well i had a blazing argument with u kilu (and half the population of rpgamers who joined in) some time ago about how opinions can be wrong so i retract that quote, u used selective editing i never said that. They can be wrong. Thats a fact.

The composers u mentioned do not rate, does not compute hibino i atke exception to hes very good, not as good as nobuo and as i have stated this is about who the greatest vgm composer is. its nobuo. just like queen, abba, the beatles are the greatest bands in music and John williams is the greatest movie composer, silvestri (and lots of others) is also good, good is not good enough.

by some time ago i mean our original bout on the old forums ages ago.

listening to my gran on the phone

Yojimbo
02-15-2005, 04:28 PM
Kilu if you was to ask all these oriental composers who they believe is there rolemodel im sure they would pick Uematsu due to his incredable success