Enterprise

[DarkSoul]

When is the new season suppose to come out?

Are you all excited about the new season about to come out.. I know it's comming out in the fall but I relly want to know when the date it is being released to the public.

If any of you can post the info here I would appreciate it.
I am way to lazy to go look for any info on it.
That and I don't got the internet at home so I gotta leech it from Locke.

[TheDragonKnight]

how bout enterprise sucks major ass and somone (with a brain) decided to kill it


Edit: CAuse i could never edit my posts on the old fourms, RAAA!!!!

[jetblue]

It took me a long time to like enterprise but now Im a fan.
I heard a rumor that the next season is there last.The executives at upn have cancelled it for low ratings.I hope this rumor is false.I also thought the parkers cancellation was also false but it was true.I thought the parkers was one of there highest rated shows.
I thought it was brillant when they brought back that old veteran of the series jeffry combs as the andorian captain.

[pikatsu]

It's fine by now, I've seen most of season 2. If nothing else, it's allways a pleasure to see T'pol in her catsuit... :lick:

It seems, that trekkies attribute the... general shittynes of ENT thusfar to Brannon&Braga, or Bastard&Bastard, as they so fondly call them... However, as of now, there's a new guy, named Cotto (first name's propably not Vir...) on the helm, and thus far, the results have been promising.

And, one has to remember, that DS9 only started to pick up speed on... 5th season, I believe, the Dominion war picking up and all, just in time for my local station to cancel it... Yay for bittorrent.

[DarkSoul]

IF this is the last season that's ok I guess.. I just don't like being left on a cliff hanger like them being back on earth during like world war 2. This time shifting and crap is crazy. I can understand not likeing it for that because it's happening way to much.
And that conduit technology that they are using in the 2nd season is just kinda way out there.. IF it only takes a few minutes to travel in that fashion why didn't they use it in STNG.. like they gotta think ahead before they starting making up alot of the episodes.. But that's a new generation of trekkies for ya..

[pikatsu]

:spoiler:

How handy!

I didn't know they went back in time, nor that they used conduits. Use that smiley! Atleast you didn't blurt out anything about T'pol becoming Phlox's fifth wife...

Ooops....

[Kilu]

Yup, I made that sign for a reason :)

I'm still waiting for Enterprise to be shown on finnish tv. Probably will have to wait around 20 years atleast :) :D Finnish tv channels don't believe in scifi.

[DarkSoul]

I guess you'll just have to be stuck downloading them off of Bittorrent sites.
Suprnova tends to have alot or all the episodes I believe, I can't guarentee the speed tho =/

Sorry if I spoiled anypart.. But if you seen the last episode of the season then you would have known =/
The 2nd season was full of that stuff.

[pikatsu]

It's sorta given, since there's that whole temporal time-war going on.

Just saw the DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations". Highly amusing.

[TheDragonKnight]

dont worry kilu your not missing anything special, as far as enterprise goes it sucks, but alot of people seem to miss the reason for it sucking. as a stand alone sc if its an average or decent show but as far as trek goes its garbge, trek fans have grown accoutomed to a certian level of quality and consistency from star trek and it is completely lacking from enterprise (with a few notable exceptions) one of the biggest beefs it the shape of what has been dubbed the "akiraprize" almost no effort was put into making a unique looking model for the ship one of teh main components, also note the massive discontinuities (yes i know errors happen and im not going to point out small ones) like archer and his crew receiving hand phasers about 300 years too earily (kirk was stuck using lasers) this isnt a small error its a gross mistake, and likely the result of carelessnees but if it wasn then it was one of the biggest approved "mistakes" ever made. B&B are good producers to be pefectly honest but they have no experience in the older trek knowledge, neiter watched TOS or was involved with it in any way ditto for TNG if im not mistaken. they made some good DS9 and voyager but they cant do the past.

a prequel series in anything is difficult to pull off but in something liek star trek known and loved for its consistency and richly detailed history it can be downright dangerous. no matter what it would take alot of work and its just not in evidence here at all.

to recap ots decent sci fi but lously trek, that may not make sence to most but then im preaching to the choir if what i said made sence its likely you already agree with me. like wise if what i said made little sence you likely disagree with me :p

[BAMAToNE]

:spoiler:

I'm eagerly waiting for the next season also. I thought I knew how they were going to end season 3... Archer looks like he's dead, etc. etc... Then we find out that the Andorians saved him at the last second.

But my jaw literally dropped when I saw the shuttlepod being fired upon by a damn WWII era fighter. Then I laughed. (Come on, the very thought is funny, heh.) Then it pans down to same alien I'm not sure if I'm supposed to know. Nazis were bad and all, but I had no idea they had aliens working for them. :P

[Zedie9]

:popcorn: I haven't seen this series (since I don't watch much television and lack the interest in it to bother DLing). The original show was great, Next Generation became so (but not to begin with - the show went through its own share of growing pains, as I recall ;)), DS9 was pretty good, and I never saw enough of Voyager to comment. However, if the technology in Enterprise is advanced beyond that of the original series, while taking place hundreds of years before, I'd want a damned good justification as to why. Does anyone have one? :wonder: If not, I have to agree with Dragon Knight's post. :shades:

[pikatsu]

...almost no effort was put into making a unique looking model for the ship one of teh main components, also note the massive discontinuities (yes i know errors happen and im not going to point out small ones) like archer and his crew receiving hand phasers about 300 years too earily (kirk was stuck using lasers)...
Unique? It cannot look unique! That's the basic Starfleet design, the original Phoenix, which Cochrane flew in First Contact, is quite similar in design. All Federation capital ships later on were based on that design, up to the Defiant class. Saucer, nacelles, it's all there. Same for any other race.

And I do believe Kirk had phasers...

[FlashFirer]

I dunno when it's supposed to come out, but I can tell you something: my father LOVES those series, and if somebody knows, thank you, gonna tell him.

[BAMAToNE]

However, if the technology in Enterprise is advanced beyond that of the original series, while taking place hundreds of years before, I'd want a damned good justification as to why. Does anyone have one? :wonder: If not, I have to agree with Dragon Knight's post. :shades:

Well, the way I look at it is this: Enterprise does indeed take place in the past. However, I'm viewing it as an alternate timeline from the time this temporal cold war emerged. With all the tinkering going on, it seems to me it would be impossible to end up exactly at the point where TNG starts. (Unless this was all supposed to happen before, which I doubt.)

So if you look at it from the Back to the Future II perspective, then anything can happen - it won't mess up the storyline of TNG because it is an alternate timeline. :)

[Kilu]

So if you look at it from the Back to the Future II perspective, then anything can happen - it won't mess up the storyline of TNG because it is an alternate timeline. :)

Alternate timelines whoop ass. Time Cop, even though it was a Van Damme film, rocked because of the time stuff :)

[pikatsu]

...However, if the technology in Enterprise is advanced beyond that of the original series, while taking place hundreds of years before,... It is not, it just looks more modern, because 60's tech looks... old, nowadays. Aside from some temp. cold war stuff, which may just be from the future.
They have no shields, just the "polarised hull plating", no photon torpedoes (those things are regular torpedoes in space), and barely have phasers. They rarely use transporters for humans, and don't have replicators, nor holodecks. Though, I don't think TOS had holo's, either.

Edit: Aye, Timecop was great fun.

[DarkSoul]

I would have to agree with you.
They don't have super tech but they are doing ok.
But if it gets more hitech then the origional startrek it's going way to far.

[TheDragonKnight]

kirk eventually got hand phasers (he always had phaser on the ship) i dont buy the alternate time line since hes (archer) had contact with temopral investigations, so presumabley hes in the "correct" timeline. and its not jsut his stuff looks cool he has tech he shouldnt, and to a fan of ship design almost all starship models are unique, they share simillar parts yes but take kirks enterprise it has teh standard primary and secondary hull as well as two nacells, but so does the enterprise E but they sure as hell dont look simillar same goes fro an oberth it has all teh basic components of a federaton starship but looks nothing like a steamrunner which also shares the same basic characteristics of all the previosly mentioned ships. all the ships have distinctive features setting them apart but the only think stopping an enterprise mesh from being the akaira mesh is the nacells are swept in a different direction.

and teh most damning tech mistake was the passing over of one of kirks remarks in TOS. according to kirk archer shouldnt have particle weapons, humanity was still throwing nukes around for a primary anti ship weapon back then.

as for enterprise problems, many races are being seen much earily than their first contact as seen in TOS and TNG, races like the frengie and the borg (what were they thinking? data states specifily in {i think its q-who} at no such vessels as the borg ship are in the stafleet database, now i can hear you all screaming data could be mistake i say bull shit hes the walking federation libary if he says that ships never been seen before hes right, and dont give me any crap about classified info he cant access after around 200 years it would be declassifed)

i am willing to be generous and ignore how we have TNG looking klingons in archers time, and even how in all the other palces that show the enterprize line of ships are missing archers command. but thinks like technology over 200 yeas out of place is jsut plain unexcusable.

the enterprize serise takes place at most 60 first contact as cohcrane is still alive to dedicate the warp 5 complex.

this is a great article about the akiraprize design

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/enterprise_design_comment.htm

[Kilu]

You all pay too much attention to details like that O_O

[pikatsu]

I had some difficulties understanding DragonKnights post... such horrible language. :p

Go here:
http://www.phasers.net/
Those guns ENT has are Phase Pistols, not Phasers. They have two setting, while the Phasers could be adjusted from kill to stun to brewing coffee. Clear advancement. Kirk had Phasers, Pike had Lasers. And it isn't entirely impossible that they just called their guns lasers by mistake. Force of habit.
And the ENT crew uses different sidearms in the pilot, only to replace them with the newest of tech, and only a handfull of those. As for ENT looking dissimilar to Kirks ENT, it's still few hundred years older. Look at a 100 years old ship, from 1904. It looks like a ship, but is still different.
They made sure nobody identified the Ferengi as "Ferengi", just some unknown race. Any Borgs I haven't seen yet.
And Cochrane isn't alive, he took an experimental warp-ship to a spin and was never seen again. (Until Kirk met him...) That's a recording in "Broken Bow".
And for the Klingons, and Enterprise not showing up in collections of past ships... Egh, it isn't there, because it wasn't around in the real world. That's something you cannot fix, for episodes which have allredy been shot. Though I remember there being a rumor about NX-01 in "Nemesis" showcase.
And the klingons have allways looked the way they look now, they just hadn't the makeup budget back then... :p
Or maybe they just hid the ridges well...
Or maybe the opressed ridge-version staged a violent que on their homeworld, enslaving the normal ones for cannon fodder against TOS-era Starfleet.

[BAMAToNE]

Yeah, I gave up trying to understand TDKs post... But I did want to touch on when he mentioned Archer presumably being the "correct timeline."

I don't think there is such a thing as the correct timeline. There are just timelines where different events occur. The alternate timeline where I am filthy rich and living with half naked cheerleaders isn't wrong, it's just not a part of this timeline (unfortunately :P ).

[Zedie9]

:D And in that alternate timelime, I'm your roommate. :lick:

[pikatsu]

Trekkies, shiver! Tolkienites, too!

http://homepage.mac.com/evanbaumgardner/iMovieTheater6.html

Surprisingly good singing, though.

[TheDragonKnight]

accually i specificaly said i will forgive and not include then like archers ship not appearing in class histories for that very reason, and as fro those races if they arent teh once were not supposed to see untill TNG then someone is fucking up even worse by allowing races taht are functionaly identical, this has been a frequent poblem for ENT appearently as one epsoide features something that looks alot like a reman.


on to the weapons, archer got a "phase pistol" now its obviously an energy weapon, thats beyond a doubt. now sine its called that and not a lazer or anyother such name it would seem it shoots a form of phased energy (and indeed the effect for the firing would support that). now never mind who was stuck with lazers kirk or pike it doesnt matter both were well after archer, now in TOS and up the weapon is a Phaser, jsut like a lazer except switch that garbage about light with phased energy, yes its called a phaser because it fires pahsed energy, just like archers.

and those are just the hand weapons at his time archers shouldnt have partile weapons on his ship either.

the mistakes errors and plain sloppynes in ENT are far too amny and too varied, it simply gives the impression that they arent trying anymore. and before i get flack about how if i thikn its so crappy why dont i do better, i never claimed i could but these people are professionals and arre getting salaries that reflect that, tehy can do better adn should be doing better.

[pikatsu]

http://www.scifiheaven.net/main/trailers/toss1hi.html

TOS trailer.

[BAMAToNE]

Hahahahah! I love the background music. ;)

IN 1966, THE FUTURE WAS FUNKY :thumbup:

[Kilu]

http://205.209.144.11/hosting/userfiles/Kilu/pork.jpg

[pikatsu]

It does seem that The First Contact started an alternate timeline, which ENT follows. I'd be positively surprised, if ENT ended in total failure of of the Starfleet in the Romulan War, it's destruction, annihilation/occupation of Earth and the Federation never being born.

"We are the Borg, we are the children. We are the ones, who make a better day, so let's start assimilating..."

Or something like that.

[TheDragonKnight]

well taht seems to be the olny out that exists for B&B although i have to admit a lme one still it leaves problems, some of the minor things you can write off as alternate timeline but ther are still massive discrepencies you cant just wave off the example being particle weapons over 300 years too earily.

oh and i did a little looking chocrane was indeed alive for the founding the warp 5 cmplex he did dedicate it yes he was already retired once archer launched (archers father took over the warp 5 program once chrocane retired) that puts archers launch no more than 40 or 50 years after first contact at the outside though id be inclined for something earilier, presonally.

At the risk of sounding redundant, in something like 100 years to archers time the romulan war starts, it has been stated on screen (making it cannon) that during taht war they were still throwing nukes at eachoter for anit-ship weapons, not just humans but the romulans as well, and this was still before the formation of starfleet or the UFP the treaty of algernon was signed by the leaders of the united earth government, not the federation council or an atturney general of starfleet. now again over 100 years or so after that war ended we see a federation and a starfleet that beginning to use particle weapons, even the shipboard weapons are primitive to waht you see later kirks phasers were of low power could not maintain a shot and fired on in one direction instead of being almost uni-directional. Now you go way back in time to archer whos using pluse technology in a hand weapon, that shouldnt been seen till what DS9? Insurrection?

Even teh alternate timeline stretches pretty think looking at that, tech mispalced by around 4 or 5 hundred years? and the idea that the could ahve been invent earily is garbage if they had partice weapons for WWIII we wouldnt have a planet left to stand on, and if the tech was recent you can bet it would have been invented turing the war becasue a war is always the scource of the biggest technological breakthrough's

err uhh ammm </rant>

[pikatsu]

I'm getting headache from your spelling. All the letters are there, but in wrong place... :)

Where do you get these pulse weapons? I'm on halfway season 2, so if they appear on season three... If they do exist and you haven't misunderstood something, maybe Reed got his hands on one PPG (Pulsed Phase Gun, Standard Earthforce...) from The Future, and...
If pulse weapon means the Defiant type anti-borg adapting variety, not just short bursts agains longer ones.
A quote from phasers.net:

" A new technical development in this era, and presumably a fore-runner of the Phaser. While not contradicting Worf's statement about the development of phasers in the 22nd century, it does go against the appearance of lasers in "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" - unless those weren't lasers but just called that." Usually, when you develop a more effective weapon, like a assault rifle/submachine gun, you may still use the older one for it's job.

As for nukes in combat, Enterprise NX-01 is mainly an explorer, not a warship. It is quite possible, when the war brokes out, the ships of the SF will be hastily armed with nukes, which are more effective than the torps they use now.

"maintain a shot and fired on in one direction instead of being almost uni-directional"
Don't need to "maintain" a shot, I believe your basic MKII handphaser can vaporize thick rock walls on single shot, when set to max.
And uni-directional? You point a phaser, and pull the trigger. If it fired at any other direction, someone friendly might get hurt... :) Of course, you might be referring to the fact, that the phaser beams, and other sfx, are added later, in the editing, and the actor might have been pointing the gun at slightly wrong direction, thus the beam appearing to home in on target...

"if they had partice weapons for WWIII we wouldnt have a planet left to stand on"

Why so? Human kind used atomic weapons in WWII, and it didn't end the civilization as we know it. Same for any other weapon. Usually WWIII is fought with nukes, but not allways that. Particle rifles can hardly destroy planets...

[pikatsu]

I fixed the problem, unfortunately I can't delete this.

So here's a poem:

"Big things, flying in the sky, dropping thing-droppings, why oh why"

Thank you very much. :wave:

[pikatsu]

Same here, so here are some funny pictures:
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[Lord Draud]

TDK is sorta like a fly, you know he is there, you tend to ignore him, if he gets annoying swat him, i learnd a long time ago he does not know even half of what he thinks he knows, he might try to say the same for me but then again i never said i was perfect

[TheDragonKnight]

for the pulse wepons i meant a single burst fire (yes as in the defiant weapons) as opposed to a beam, for unidirectional, compare kirk's shipboard phasers (always firing forward and not able to keep a continous beam for very long,) to the phasres on newer ship which can fire in many directions ( a galaxy class can pfire a phaser in any place in a true 360 by 360 arc) as well as keep a sustained beam.

sorry if i confused you by jumping from hand held to ship board weapons. and sorry bout my typos ill try to watch that.

danath.. try to be a little more polite i havent been your roommate in over a year you dont need to keep being a dick, basic courtesy costs you nothing, ther was no pourpse to that post what so ever except to insult me, you could have at least contributed as well.

[Lord Draud]

the fact is you don't know what your talking about half the time and it gets annoying, i am not the only one that thinks so, you want me to add to the thread fine star wars is better :P

[pikatsu]

No it ain't! :) I do think the Starfleet ships have "x number of forward firing, x number of backward firing" phasers... Could be wrong...

Dang, my TNG torrent lost it's tracker... And DS9's are slow as heck...

[OutcastedNomad]

this is pointless. once the model airs for the first time it is beyond recall. However I have yet to see a single eps. of Enterprise as it was given worse marks than Voyager and Voyager was lame in my book. but for sake of argument we should look at the timeline from the launch of the "Phoenix" to the start of the show not the start of the TOS. 50 year advances in technology that are Radical happen ( look at PCs ) and yes they were called Phasers back in Kirk time too.

Edit: 1701-D had a 270-300 degree firing arch for the Front batteries and 45 for the rear.

[BAMAToNE]

Judging anything because of the review it got and not from personal experience is what is lame.

[Zedie9]

:D Reviews should only be used as a loose guide when trying to decide. Unless you have no interest in something to begin with, reviews are only as useful as the quality of the review, and how well it jibes with what the individual likes. :spin:

[Lord Draud]

i likes ST:V cause they had a lot of the borg and i love the borg

[pikatsu]

The Final Frontier?
ST: IIX would be the one with the Borg.

[jetblue]

Todays episode was good. It was'nt great but it was good. Wish they show it all together instead of a 2 part. I thought the people would talk more like the real people of the 40's. Its one of my favorite era's. If I could travel through time like the enterprise I would stay in the 40's. Screw the timeline.
Still I wish Enterprise would focus more on exploration instead of all this temporal buisness. I bet there going to try and tie Roswell 1947 in there somewhere.

[Lord Draud]

star treck voger nerd! if i ment the fifth movie i would have said it also to show how geeky the people that make star trek are watch the movie trekies and then get this they remade all the movies in klingon for people that can speak it! i just saw that on the news

[pikatsu]

Eh, just damn hard to believe. The Voyagers Borg were horrifyingly pussified version. Friggin Intrepid(?)-class starship making fools of the collective on daily basis... Yeh, sure.

And Voyager isn't ST: V.

It's TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT. Then there's ST:TMP, The Motion Picture, and the assorted other movies.

And I'm not even a trekkie... :)

[BAMAToNE]

If you accept the crew's fate right now, then I think the season premier was excellent. I like how they don't tread as lightly anymore. That is, they don't have as much a problem kicking ass when they need to.

:spoiler:

For instance, when Trip and Mayweather blew up the shuttlepod with the Nazis in it. I say good riddance. ;)

That said, the story is really out there.. I'm not sure I wanted to continue this temporal war thing. But I guess they can't get away from it now. I would like them to stop introducing as many new races as possible for a while. It's like they keep trying to find a good bad guy. The Suliban didn't really work, and the Xindi chapter is pretty much closed. So now they'll try this new race I've never seen before and still don't know the name of. I guess there's nothing to do but watch and find out what happens. :D

[pikatsu]

Damn, I started to read the previous post, and suddenly a "spoiler!" smiley pops up. Too slow! :p

[jetblue]

TINY SPOILER!!!

Blast I missed almost all of it tonight F-ing around outside. When I got in I saw that suliban wich freaked me out and saw the enterprise flying over New York city wich was cool as hell.
I thought the aircraft approaching were modified jets not stukas. I mean the nazis had jets and jet powered flying wings and stuff. I guess jets would of been to predictable,how often do they put stukas on t.v.
The previews for next weeks episode really got my intrest. I wonder if this marriage will tie in to spocks ancestry later on. And thank the gods this temporal war seems to be over.



Can someone tell me why the suliban were there and how they got there? I will have to wait months untill they re-run it and I cant wait that long.

[pikatsu]

Bittorrent is your friend... laalalaa.

[jetblue]

(slaps self on forehead),I forget bittorent are not only for music and games. Thanks Pikatsuhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smile.gif

[BAMAToNE]

Oops, I forgot all about it. *downloads*

[pikatsu]

Whatever the legal implications of P2P networking are, this is one usage that is 100% justifiable.

[BAMAToNE]

This past episode I thought was really good. It's a nice change of pace from having to fight it out with someone everytime. I like how they got personal with everyone. I wouldn't want it to become the norm, but in this case it's a nice breather.

And we all know what's going to happen with T'Pol next ep, right? ;)

[pikatsu]

Say, what season are you seeing?

[BAMAToNE]

Say, what season are you seeing?

Uh, the current season (4). Episode 3 was the one to which I was referring.

[jetblue]

It was a good episode. I thought the vulcans spoke to human like,a little bit.
I started to get mad when the zindi appeared but thankgoodness it was a dream. Thats so soap operaish.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smile.gif






2 saturdays ago on saturday night live they had a tribute to jimmy falon and one skit had him as the radio dj with ben afflek as a guest and ben afflek had a radio personality called "Tu Spock",half vulcan half gangsterapper,and was saying,"live large and prosper biatch". That had me cracking up.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/rofl.gif



update friday,29:
Todays episode was great. The big Show as a orion slaver did the job very well. Reminds me of that episode of Voyager with The Rock fighting 7 of nine. And I thought tpal was so cute when the big show was shaking her.
Is this soong person any relation to data's creator Dr.soong? Or was it Dr.sung? And did that guy with the long hair kinda look's like a young Khan.

[Lord Draud]

i was saying the same thing as i watched it i was like WTF soong is not spoused to be avil yet and DAMN IT THATS KHAN!!!!! i came up with a few hypothis's First its not dr soong but Lore comeback from the future and khaz is realy a title meaning leader so that could be the person we know as khan only he has not taken the title yet

[pikatsu]

I was under the impression that the Eugenic Wars were fought before ENT timeline. Also, I'm under the impression that Brent Spiners character is an ancestor of Soong. Not having seen the episodes, just things I've heard elsewere.

[BAMAToNE]

I was under the impression that the Eugenic Wars were fought before ENT timeline. Also, I'm under the impression that Brent Spiners character is an ancestor of Soong. Not having seen the episodes, just things I've heard elsewere.

Yes, the wars were already fought - they said so. I guess they're brewing up a new one? Personally, I don't know how Earth can possible fight a war on two fronts (Euginics and Klingnons). I don't think they could take on either right now.

Did anyone else's ears perk up when they heard the "Orion Syndicate?" I recognized it from way back in a DS9 ep, though I don't remember the details. I do remember them being smugglers though.

I think this might actually be the real Dr. Soong. It wouldn't be that farfetched to say he altered his own dna/gene sequence so he'd live longer. I imagine that after his eugenics fail, he'll decide to create a new master race - this time androids.

Anyway, that's what I think. Btw, there were spoilers in this. (I think we all know this thread contains spoilers by now, though. ;) )

[jetblue]

Ah another good episode. I want to hear more on the eugenics war. For a minute I thought that the boy the other eugenics left behind might have been kahn because he had long 80's type hair until the other kahn look alike killed him. Now Im sure he's Kahn. He's very arrogant and ruthless. He'll probably take the title Kahn after he kill's Dr.soong or maroon's him on some planet to make androids.
I really liked the way the eugenics kept using the word Human.
Archer is such a wimp. I would of started firing torpedoes as soon as I got in range of that asteroid. I would of told Dr.Soong that Starfleet has already infomed the scientist's family's of there deaths and honorable sacrifice for the glorius earth federation. Surrender now or perish!
But tpal was the only one with balls and started firing torpedoes. She is so cute.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/love.gif




Also Andromeda is getting pretty good. They must've got some extra cash for a outdoor set and better SFX.

[Astrolounge]

I don't really watch the show, which one has William Shatner?

:flagca:

[Lord Draud]

the original one, i don't think he was on anyothers

[pikatsu]

Now Im sure he's Kahn.

Nope, Kahn was in Eugenics wars, before ENT. And is currently somewhere in deep space on a sleeper ship, and will eventually be found by Kirk in TOS.

"the original one, i don't think he was on anyothers"

There was of course "Generations", where Kirk was fighting alongside TNG folks.

I'm thinking they are planning on a Kirk episode in ENT...

[jetblue]

Man what a big syke. When that dude said "what about the botany bay" I was like damn,blast,curse. Now I view the entire 3 part series as,what was the point of bringing all that up.
The way they disabled the klingon ship was good but unbeliveable because the klingons would've destroyed the ship on sight then sift through the remains.
And why was the torpedo going side ways instead of straight down?And If enterprise had time enough to fire 3 torpedoes could'nt the augments also have time to fire 3 additional torpedoes to stop there torpedoes?http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/wall.gif
Is there going to be an android uprising episode soon?



update nov,13
WHY DID'NT THEY JUST BEAM THE DAMN CANISTERS DOWN!!!!!!!!!
Im sorry This will stop my B*t**ing.

I look forward to the new episode this week.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[pikatsu]

Man what a big syke. When that dude said "what about the botany bay" I was like damn,blast,curse. Now I view the entire 3 part series as,what was the point of bringing all that up.
The way they disabled the klingon ship was good but unbeliveable because the klingons would've destroyed the ship on sight then sift through the remains.
And why was the torpedo going side ways instead of straight down?And If enterprise had time enough to fire 3 torpedoes could'nt the augments also have time to fire 3 additional torpedoes to stop there torpedoes?http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/wall.gif
Is there going to be an android uprising episode soon?



update nov,13
WHY DID'NT THEY JUST BEAM THE DAMN CANISTERS DOWN!!!!!!!!!
Im sorry This will stop my B*t**ing.

I look forward to the new episode this week.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Heck, androids don't really gain enough sentience to "rise" until TNG, and even then, nobody really knows how Data works. So only one android.
Torpedoes would have burned in the atmosphere, if not fired in in a "sideways" re-entry path. Now, your regular warhead propably wouldn't mind, but bio-weapons are sensitive to heat.
And what about the Botany Bay?
I'm betting Klingons would like to know, what the heck ENT is doing there...
And the augments only had one bio-weapon torpedo. And it wasn't even finished. As for not beaming them down, the have to be spread somehow. They were talking about maximum contamination somewhere there...

[jetblue]

Yeah your right. I understand now.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smile.gif
I cooled off since the last post but I still have a feeling that the 3rd episode was done crudely that it was'nt what the writers had in mind but for some reason or another changed it.
I mean it was almost childish more than other past episode's. There I go again. (hit's self with milk crate)
Still its better than any voyager episode. To much borg.

[Lord Draud]

what about the ones with the vulcans? any thoughts i am thinking there pretty good, at least tehre not all thinly dressed moral storys like all the other series

[jetblue]

The vulcan episodes are great. That was the first thing I was hoping this series would do when it first started and show the vulcan story and stuff.
Archer should'nt have gone in the forge. It should of been only t-pol. She need's more camera timehttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/heartbeat.gif.
Im not sure about the preview's for this week.
I thought vulcan's could'nt shed blood or go against each other.
But still if they fight no system will be able to resist them. There logic would be there greatest weapon. A vulcan empire,that would be cool.

Mabey when they do a bizzaro episode like the old one they might try something like that.
You know one's coming. I just hope the writer's dont mess it up.

[Lord Draud]

oh last i remember t'pol had aLOT of time on camra you got to see her ass no? i am trying to figure out if the romulons have split aready or not, logic in combate never works cause logic does not count for the lone nut with power and a means to use it

[Astrolounge]

It may seem odd, but a perfectly logical race is, illogical.
Logic can be your ultimate downfall in most of life, just because something SHOULD happen dosen't mean it will.

Example: "The orc forces will attack from the west, that is the area with the most favorible terrain for them."
*Orcs come from the south, because it is a straight line, and orcs aren't known for intelligance or logical thinking*
*Logical thinkers are brutally mashed into a pulp by crude clubs.*
"But how could are carefull analisis be wrong?"
Because the orcs were, above all else RANDOM.

That is a very simplified version of how to defeat Vulcans, and part of the reason I don't like them.

[BAMAToNE]

i am trying to figure out if the romulons have split aready or not

There was an episode early on in season one or two that dealt with the Romulans. They didn't get much camera time, but they were there, and established. The Enterprise ventured into their space and landed themselves smack in the middle of a minefield. A couple of Romulan warships came to hurry them out of their territory and Malcom almost died trying to remove a mine from the ship's hull.

[Lord Draud]

ah yes now i remember thanks for pointing that out i had totaly forgoten

[pikatsu]

Yep, they didn't get much camera time... They're supposed to first appear in TOS, as in being visible. (You know, that Romulan centurion. The same guy who was Spock's father, Sarek, in TOS and the movies.)

As for Vulcans not killing Vulcans... I think you mistake them for the minbari. :p

[jetblue]

Ha..your righthttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smile.gif. Blast Im getting my series mixed up. It's been so long since I've seen B5. The minbari were cool. I think D'len is on the ABC series Lost as a crazy Island women. At least she's getting work.
Minbari Vs. Vulcan. Who would win?

[Lord Draud]

my dad is buying the whole B5 boxset can't wait!!

[BAMAToNE]

Heh, the Minbari could wipe out the humans, the Vulcans, the Romulans, and the Klingnons with no trouble. :P

[jetblue]

The vulcan episodes ended nicely. There was probably some hidden reference to today's events around the world.
I like those weapons the vulcans have. Anyone know what there called?
That mind meld was kinda hot. I was'nt expecting that.
There were some good camera angle's this time. One in particular.
When they were bringing in t-pol to the high command....you know what Im talking abouthttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/wink.gif...oh yeeah!
But seriously it was done well and the romulan,thank the god's it was a romulan and not a zindi or a xpance alien or a timenoid or a suliban,tied everything together.
Crafty romulans!

[Astrolounge]

Drink Romulan ale!
(Or die!)

[pikatsu]

Ha..your righthttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smile.gif. Blast Im getting my series mixed up. It's been so long since I've seen B5. The minbari were cool. I think D'len is on the ABC series Lost as a crazy Island women. At least she's getting work.
Minbari Vs. Vulcan. Who would win?

That's another mixup. :p D'len would be a vulcan name. Or narn, actually. It's Delenn, can't be sure with how many n's.

Allways had a thing for for her... I think it's the bone. Supposedly very humanoid, but slightly different. Kinda like japanese chicks.

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/7382/b0v3spacemf1.jpg

[Lord Draud]

i liked her bald none of this oh look i can grow hair shit lol

[pikatsu]

This is something I noticed today, well actually a few years back:

http://img39.exs.cx/img39/3668/logo6ht.gif

A nordic construction company, builds something by the Tornio city library.

Then there's this:

http://img39.exs.cx/img39/3109/insigniaenterprisencc17011dw.gif

And this:

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8629/enterprisefront7xt.jpg

Hmmm....

[BAMAToNE]

I was looking up the history of the Enterprise recently because I wanted to know more about the Enterprise C. Well, I came across two interesting web sites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Enterprise
http://enterprisehistory.home.att.net/shipselect.html

[BAMAToNE]

Has there seriously not been a new Enterprise for two weeks?

[jetblue]

Season break. Andromeda and other shows are also re-running.
Good for me because I missed so many shows.
I curse the new enterprise time slot. I liked it better on wendsdays.

[Lord Draud]

me two i have D&D friday night andd i would rather play then watch so i miss it

[tanisthalon]

I wont get chance to see the new series of Star Trek Enterprise until into the new year, over here in the UK. So has the show picked up a bit compared to previous seasons??? Is the temporal war story any good and does T'Pol look even more hot???

[pikatsu]

ENT has picked up a lot since Seasons 1 and 2, and those seasons weren't that bad, either.
The temp war story is fine, albeit short to my likening, allways been fond of time-travel.
And T'Pol looks as hot as ever, if not hotter. I mean, there's this episode on a Vulcan desert, and she looks hotter than the surroundings! And we all know how hot Vulcan deserts are. :tophat:

[elShoggotho]

Not too much time-travel. It kills coherent storylines.
O-kay, best ideas so far:
Not showing the Romulans - coherent with every known story.
Andorians showing up as warlike enemies.
Klingons being adept in genetic engineering - how else can we explain the flathead klingons in the original series?
No federation, no prime directive. Fine!

[Kilu]

http://rpgn.lintbox.net/hosting/userfiles/Kilu/riker.gif

[pikatsu]

Great Maker! :amazed:

[jetblue]

You drew that Kilu?

[Kilu]

Nope. I just have sources on high places:)

[Lord Draud]

my god the hair! the hair!

[jetblue]

Good episode today. When I heard transporter I thought they were going to do the parallel universe thing and mess it up. But no it was diffrent. Refreshing from all those aliens and stuff. This episode gets http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gif stars.



Can you imagine quantum transporters? Beam from earth to anywhere in the galaxy using the stars own feilds as a conduit.

[BAMAToNE]

Good episode today. When I heard transporter I thought they were going to do the parallel universe thing and mess it up. But no it was diffrent. Refreshing from all those aliens and stuff. This episode gets http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/star.gif stars.

I thought it sucked. :(

It didn't advance the story any. It's just some random crap that happened. You knew the quantum transporter wouldn't work. You knew that he wasn't going to bring back his son. I don't know.. I'm getting more disappointed with this show wasting so much time on nonsense.

[pikatsu]

He did bring back his son...

[BAMAToNE]

He did bring back his son...


Sigh... fine. I'll rephrase. You knew he wouldn't be able to bring his son back so they could all live happily ever after.

[pikatsu]

Better than being stuck in the limbo...

[Lord Draud]

hmm being stuck under a limbo br for all of eternaty....*shuders* i have yet to see any of the newer eps...i find my self reverting back to starwars is better mind set at least they didn't true and over do it by making so many show that people start geting sick of it and the novels and all that crap at least starwars novels all are part of a story line all other books don't have difrent time lines or change history its only the newest movies that do that

[jetblue]

Last nights episode was good. I was hopeing they would show the aliens in there true form at the end but they did'nt. It was a cheap episode but the writing was good. Notice they tried hard not to show hoshi's breast on the medical table. I would of ripped that shirt off and made it all dramatic,1000 megajoules!(or what ever they said)
Archer freaked me out in the middle of the show with the Tsunami.





Whats getting real good with good actors and writing is the new Battlestar Galactica. Check it out.
When I was small I use to play in the basement with my older brothers toys and they were obsessed with the old BG. I learned much from there toys and BG comic books. There not even interested now in the new series. Strange.

[BAMAToNE]

Yeah, I thought this one was better than the last (transporter) episode. You couldn't have seen these aliens in their true forms - they said they were non-physical beings.

I laughed at the end there. It might take them 5000 years to actually initiate first contact, heh.

[jetblue]

OOO,good one tonight. I like the way the teliarite(not sure how to spell there name)look. More like a alien you would see on farscape. Im glad they keep on jeffery combs,hes such a good actor. Im watching DS9 on Spike TV just to see him as wayunn.
That human deserved to be beat down for refusing alein sn****.
Damn romulans. I hope they dont blame them for everything all through the season.
I got some questions as to why trip and malcom were left on the ship and why they werent squished to pulp when the ship went to warp,but i know I will get out of hand and should just accept the way things went.http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/smile.gif





Staying up to see the repeat of battlestar galactica at 12am. Missed it earlier.

[pikatsu]

I'm quessing the inertial dampers are online on warp, to protect the instruments.

Remote controlling the ship would explain why no-one has seen a romulan in TOS, even after a war...

I'm thinking the MACO quarding the andorians did a fine job. He sensed Shren sneaking up to him, and landed a punch on him. He only lost to Talas because the plot said so. :)

Odly enough, Talas's boobs seemed to gain size during the melee with the MACO. ;)
See, I pay attention to details. :)

[tanisthalon]

Come on then guys & gals, is the show better than the previous series? It will be starting again in the UK soon, currently cannot wait.

A series that finished last week over in the UK was Battlestar Galactica, and I must say it was very enjoyable.........More than I thought it would be, didnt think it would be as good as the original series. Shame it didnt have as good a eye candy as Colonel Wilma Deering in Buck Rogers :(

[Three Storms]

how bout enterprise sucks major ass and somone (with a brain) decided to kill it


Edit: CAuse i could never edit my posts on the old fourms, RAAA!!!!

It's that damn country song they replaced the original opening with! Country music is EVIL!!!!!!!

[jetblue]

I think you're right Three storms about the song. Every time I play and sing it on the guitar something bad happens to me.
I mute it when Enterprise starts. The instrumental is ok.

[pikatsu]

It sorta fitted the idea of starting out the exploration to the unknown. But I don't understand why they pepped it up later on, with some generic pump-pump....

ENT's two first seasons were good trek, if you enjoy trek in general, you'll enjoy them. 3'rd and 4'th are better yet, with actual story arcs, not just unrelated episodes.

[BAMAToNE]

Yeah, ugh... That theme song can suck my balls. It's really sad that the theme from Deep Space Nine won a Grammy, and then they follow it up two series later with this ultra crap.

Regarding this past ep with the Andorians and Telorites, I also thought it was great. I had a feeling there at the end that the command center wasn't on the ship. I'm glad to see the Romulans in the storyline, but I'm a little confused as to how they are going to be used. I understand having them meddle in Vulcan affairs - there have been those (Vulcans and Romulans) for years that have wanted reunification. But to have them playing around in Earth's/Andoria's/Telorites' affairs seems a little odd. BUT! We shall see. :)

I really like Shran. I understand his natural distrust for just about everything. But he should realize by now that Archer has his best interests in mind. Shran would be a good and powerful ally to have if he'd just shut up sometimes.

[pikatsu]

Romulans are devious, and wish to conquer more space... Get the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites at eachother's throats, move in when the spacedust settles. The earth influence is mediating in this, propably why they go after earth big-time later on, as they (earth) are still rather primitive, technologically.

We know there will be Earth-Romulan war... But who starts it, and why? What is the deffinate outcome? This is building to it.

I'm thinking, after Voyager, the franchise was a little bleak... As i recall, ENT was even "Star Trek: Enterprise" at first, just "Enterprise". I'm thinking the theme is similarly trying to make some distance the original scoring, trying to set up new take on the familiar universe.

[pikatsu]

:(

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=30302

[jetblue]

Yeah its sad. But they have been saying that since the fall. When UPN cancelled a whole bunch of shows last year. Lets hope they'll go out with a bang and make the world miss t-pols boobs. And years of re-runs. They also said last year of another sci-fi show to take its place or run beside it. All I remember was that it had a bunch of teenagers in space suits.

Let us go to Andromeda (also last season) and to the new Battlestar Galactica. The Cylons on Caprica look interesting. Edward James Almos really took to playing Adama. I think its his best role ever. Starbuck acts to butchy. And Apollo...eh,so so. Baltar is perfect. Boomer is ok. Colonel Tigh doest seem like a drunk and I hope they stop trying to add that to his storyline. Roslin played by Mary Mcdonel is a good actress and makes a fine president. Never liked boxy. I think he's a cylon. And all the rest are possibly cylons.

[baron]

The new series was supposed an academy series, don't know if that's still happening

[jetblue]

Good episode again tonight. That Romulan that was the head scientist looks familiar but cant remember if he was on other star trek series or another show.
It was cool the way the remote ship moved. Like a flea.
I wanted the fight to last longer with some old star trek music. I was glad when Archer took some damage. Made it look serious.
Best scene:when the remote ship went into warp and the fleet came out of warp.
What the hell was that in the helmet? A albino andorian?





Missed Battlestar Galactica. Went outside right after enterprise thinking I will be back in a hour when it starts at 9:00 but BAM it was 9:50 when I looked at my watch. Must have encountered a tear in the fabric of time or something.

[BAMAToNE]

That was a great episode indeed! I don't think he was an albino Andorian so much as he is probably just inside of that thing for verrrry long periods of time. (Think how Anacan looked at the end of Return of the Jedi.)

It's really sad they will discontinue the series in May. :(

[Lord Draud]

ding dong the show is dead!, t is one of the signs that startrek will finely be nothing but a memory soon! and then starwars will rule them all MWA he ha hA hA!

[pikatsu]

*ZAP!*


Hah, that was me phasering Lord Draud. :nana:

[Lord Draud]

i have sheilds up to full, and i polerized the hull plating

[jetblue]

Again an awsome episode. Cool city the albino andorians had (forgot there name) and a ice planet. The romulan city reminds me of atlantis a little bit. From old drawings.
What is up with Tripp? Im glad he's leaving. But I wonder who the traitor is in the previews? I hope its malcom. Cant stand him either. Kill off or transfer all the main cast before the series finale and just leave a archer and tpol and hoshi in a love ship. And pick up some female aliens along the way.




Battlestar galactica was good. More of the caprica side story. The butchy starbuck is starting to grow on me. If only they would stuff her bra or something.

[pikatsu]

BSG seems like a good show. Eagerly awaiting the 2nd season. Talk about cliffhangers... http://www.modthesims2.com/images/smiley/cylonA.gif

[jetblue]

Interesting episode tonight. The way they explained the human looking Klingons seems like something the writers made up at the last minute. Unless there shooting for something diffrent. Ill wait till next weeks episode before I say something else. But it was interesting.
I knew Malcolm was not to be trusted. If I was captain I would of sent him to the torture deck(I would of build one). And if he still did'nt talk,I would let Tpol have him.
That was cool. Some hot girl on girl mind meld action. I thought Tpol was touching Hoshi's face more than neccesary. Tpol could meld me anytimehttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/love.gif. Hoshi looked attractive with her hair down in the alley.
Did you all see those women on the Columbia's bridge? Thats why Tucker left Enterprise the bastard.
I thought that was nice that they named the sister ship Columbia.



Battlestar Galactica was alright. Not much happened. More like a time filler.

[pikatsu]

There has been debate about "ridgeless" TOS klingons ever since The Motion Picture... One of the more widely accepted reasons being a disease. I doubt they just threw that in... Would explain the general hostility of klingons towards humans, for decades to come...

[TheDragonKnight]

hmm i actualy wll admit to being overly harsh on enterprise, it as not that bad, adn i am quite frankly suprised its being canceled. it was fine science fiction it jsut didnt fit well into the rest of the trek universe (though an admirtalbe attempt) you have to give TPTB credit just for the sheer about of ball's it took to tackle somethinkg like this,

it is unfourtnate that they failed but it happened.

most of my objections to the series were based on technical and historical problems, if you simply wanted to enjoy some si-fi enterprise would have served just fine.

[jetblue]

Cool the way they explained the ridges and the plauge. I think they tied it in well. They must've hired some good writers for this one. Nice battle at the end. I thought for a second there that since Tripp was on board Enterprise that the Columbia was gonna be destroyed in good'ol Star Trek fashion.
Tripp needs to get over Tpol. Its starting to annoy me. Archer was to soft on malcom. I would reduce his rank and make him feed the dog.
Flox did a good job in acting. He's one of the best actors on the series.
Gonna find out and enter that contest for the season1 dvd set and vote for fav episode.



BSG was really good for me. Very well written episode. I was surprised when the president ordered the cylon blown out of the airlock(thats what i would of done to malcolm) I cant wait till they find Kobal.

Andromeda was a rerun. I guess there's a few more episodes left of it.

[jetblue]

April 15,part 1 of 2 of the last episode of Enterprise.
Mark it on your calendars,organizers,fridge magnet,marker it on your wall.
The "Save Enterprise" video thats floating around from star trek united is pretty good. Check it out.



OMG,OMG,OMG. The season finale of Battle Star Galactica was almost to good for words. So good I had to double post. Havent seen such good story telling in ages. The cylons are pregnant! Finally saw diffrent kind's of cylon vessel's. The arrow of apollo.
I love the ancient refrences. You know I dohttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/wink.gif
New season begins in july. I cant wait. To the time Machine!!!

And dont forget new Family Guy episodes on Fox starting in may along with new episodes of American Dad.

[BAMAToNE]

Can someone tell me what the last new episode of Enterprise was? It's been so long I can't remember. And I'm hoping I didn't miss one with all the traveling I've been doing lately. And are there any new ones before those two-parters?

[pikatsu]

16, I should think. The ridge disclosure. ;)

Hasn't been any new eps for awhile...

[jetblue]

Yeah,that was the last. And the following week they re-runned the eugenics episodes. Then the next week after them they showed american model in its place for a 2 hour special then the next week they started the top 3 episodes of enterprise that were voted for over the internet. cant remember what the first one was But the second was when tripp died and they made a clone.
And this friday is the number one voted for and then next week is the 2 parter series finale.
I think I remembered everythinghttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/ponder.gif

[pikatsu]

Well, that was fun episode...


Not to mention fun to look at. O_O

[BAMAToNE]

I thought this last one was supposed to be the first part of the two part series finale? Besides what happened with Trip and T'Pol, the story wasn't furthered at all. :(

[pikatsu]

Next one will be mirror episode... Should be fun.

[pikatsu]

And it was!

"Live long, and prosper!"

"Live long, and... aw f**k it, BLAM!"

I like the terran empire female uniforms... ;)

[pikatsu]

All Hail the Empress!

[BAMAToNE]

Meh.. I'm getting a little tired of this alternate universe...

[pikatsu]

Eeh, been like, two episodes...

[Three Storms]

I liked the alternate reality, and thought it was cool the way they depicted the classic ship in it.

T'Pol looked much better with long hair. :)

[pikatsu]

Though she does not look worse with shorter... Funny like that.

[BAMAToNE]

I don't know. I kind of feel like they're all just dicking around now that they know the show is cancelled. There's not really a point to any of this.. Sigh. If there is, I'll be impressed. But I'm still bored with these last two eps.

[BAMAToNE]

Did they just decide to quit developing the alternate universe story? Or did they have to move on since the show is ending soon? Hmm.. either way I'm glad the direction they're going in now. :)

[jetblue]

I have so much to say about the past episodes but I was really impressed with the Empire episodes. They were the best. The tholians were a surprise and the gorn. They did the set so colorful like the old star trek. Almost brought a tear to my eye.
Now its all over and I miss it already. Scott Bakula was truly a great captain.
Now would be a good time for Voyager or one like it.


Also Andromeda ended the same night. It was alright. Even though Kevin Sorbo survived. All thats left is Battlestar and stargate wich is becoming more like star trek to me.



I forgot to mention,since this might be the last time I do so,but Tpol and Hoshi knife fighting in those short outfits.....NOW THATS GOOD SCIENCE FICTIONhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/eyepopping.gifhttp://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/love.gif

[pikatsu]

"Space...the final frontier. These are the voyages of the
starship "Enterprise". Her ongoing mission: To explore
strange, new worlds. To seek out new life forms, and new
civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before."

She'll be back.

[Three Storms]

I also miss it already. http://www.rpgamers.info/images/smilies/bawl.gif



It sucks that they gave it a bad time slot, bitched about the low ratings from that bad time slot, and cancelled it instead of giving it a better time slot.

It was kinda cool the way they played the last episode as if it was an episode from the next generation, with the little toast "here's tot he next generation" added in.

[pikatsu]

And "All Good Things..." also mentioned there, the final ep. for TNG. :tophat:

[BAMAToNE]

And "All Good Things..." also mentioned there, the final ep. for TNG. :tophat:

Good connection. :)

I was very impressed with the last episode. I'm a little disappointed we didn't get to hear Archer's speech, but I suppose it would have been near impossible for the writer's to come up with something that momentous.

I'm really sad for Trip's family.. I mean think about it. His sister died. His daughter died. He died. There's no more Tucker family anymore... :(

[tanisthalon]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wheres the spoiler alert for the quote above, its still airing in the UK!

[pikatsu]

Well, eh... Troi spoils it way before it happens, so... :nana: