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Locke Cole
09-29-2004, 10:43 PM
Hello all,

Some of you in the chatroom may already know this story, however if you don't, please feel free to sit back, get some :popcorn: and learn of the interesting events that took place and caused our forums to be unavailable for the month of September.

First off, our forums were being hosted on our old Lintbox server, a server leased from a company called Angel Networkz (referred to as AN). I prepaid this server for 6 months of service, at $99/month in June.

The server went offline without notice the last week of August. I contacted AN within an hour of the downtime, and learned that not only was our server down, but all of the AN servers were down.

I waited for more information, for 3 full days. Finally, word comes not from AN staff, but from another forum I post on. Its called WHT, a place where people who run webhosts discuss all sorts of security issues, software, and just general tips on being the best host :) Rumor had it that AN's servers had been disconnected due to lack of payment to their provider Managed Inc. Rumor also told the missing money exceeded $70,000.

Where did this money go? I mean, all AN's clients pay for their services in advance, so the money should have been available. Alas, no straight answers. We wait longer, hoping for any sign of relief. About a week into the downtime, we are told an agreement has been reached, but we will have to pay ANOTHER month of service to have our server reactivated. At this point I still had 3 1/2 months of paid service, and did not have that kind of money to be giving to crooks.

I hesitated, as I did not have the cash at the time, and awaited another solution. During this time, Lintbox's clients were also down and I was not feeling too good about it. I hunted for another service provider, and eventually turned up one, and restored all of Lintbox's accounts. Alas, still nothing but lies from AN, as they kept promising answers and never had them, their site continued to go online and offline, it was a mess.

Silly me, I had all of the backups of our data writing to a second harddisk inside the server itself, never expecting the plug to be pulled. Thus, our files were being held hostage this entire time. Finally, just this morning, I managed to rake together $130USD (the amount demanded to get the files back!) and had service to the server restored. Its not pocket change, in fact it hit me pretty hard, but I saw it as my fault for the loss of data, and felt it was the least I could do to recover our forums, and other client data.

Files were transferred and ta-da, the forums are back.

Alas, still no refund or word from AN, they are still to this day screwing over what's left of their clients. I doubt I'll ever see that money again. AN use to be one of the most recommended dedicated server providers, now they are known for causing one of the largest scams in dedicated hosting history.

Now you know in a quick and easy form, why the forums have been missing. I'm sorry for the downtime, and promise to keep backups in a safer place from now on. I hope everyone comes back.

Giea
09-29-2004, 10:48 PM
Yay Locke! You pulled us through.. musta' been a horrible month(s), terribly sorry mate.. Dirrtay' Bastards they are eh?

Thwyter
09-30-2004, 12:18 AM
Well, you just have to put it all behind you. I'm glad that you got the forums back. :dance:

Well, their sotware is back and I'm back. :meow:
Good job Locke :bouncy:

Zedie9
09-30-2004, 02:25 AM
:thumbup: Way to go - Your patience was sorely tested on this one, and I'm glad to see the boards finally back up.

:ponder: However... Don't you have any legal recourse against Angel Networks? I mean, if you paid months in advance and they didn't provide you service, aren't they legally obligated to either refund your money or provide the bandwidth? :shame: (<-on them ;))

jetblue
09-30-2004, 02:56 AM
YAY!! Locke is the man!! Excellent!!

Those AN bastards! I am preparing a curse. I will inflict upon them....let me see....how about finger dementia. That curse will last years.
Sue them also or find out where they all hang out and we will give them the smackdown chicago style.

Locke Cole
09-30-2004, 06:34 AM
Alas, I may be able to sue them, but its not that simple. Such a task costs money, and its most likely not worth going after them for it, as it will probably cost me more to sue then I would get returned.

However, some of their clients are owed upwards of $7000, a few of them run large companies, and have engaged them in legal battles. There has been discussion of the smaller clients working together for a joint venture type plan, but so far no action has been taken.

Kilu
09-30-2004, 08:54 AM
Well, I'm glad that the worst is probably behind now. Let us celebrate the the Second Coming of the New RPGN Forums! :cheers:

daniel
10-01-2004, 08:38 AM
yay I'm back and argumentative as ever! hi ppl and sod that rabble Locke :) Glad to see no data loss even if it came ata price that was daylight robbery.

Hope everyone has a great time on these new boards and I will pop in occasionally as usual

silverDistortioN
10-01-2004, 01:10 PM
i don't feel like making any new threads at the moment, so i guess this one will do...

well, i decided to stick around in hopes of becoming a mod, maybe. =)
hope nobody's *too* disappointed... >.>

edit: oh, thought the other threads were gone... they're just dead, i see...

Kilu
10-01-2004, 02:48 PM
:offtopic:

:)
Hooray, Silver is staying. Let's all rejoice :cheers:
And have beer.

Ontopic.
We can count on you that you will post in here if anything happens regarding this whole thing, right Locke? As in, if the big boys get their money back and whatnot.

Yuffie
10-01-2004, 03:59 PM
WOOOOOH!!!! We're back!!!! And Silver's baaaack!!! And I have luuucoza-...oh wait. Crap. :(

I do have a load of randomly appearing pencils around my house now though. :)

It's good to be back. :D

*mega glomps Locke!*

Hey...if you spell mega wrong it's spelt mage!! I have so much fun with typos. :)

Pezito
10-03-2004, 06:28 AM
Yay for our forums, yay for Locke ! :D

Man, I'm sorry you had to lose all that money because of a crappy host... It really is a pity. :wonder: As a matter of fact, were there no way around paying them to get the files back ? I mean, maybe it would've been better (for you at least) to just start over with new forums... Same thing except the old threads would've been gone, right ?

Anyway, thanks for going through this and making these forums available again ! \(^_^)/

Locke Cole
10-03-2004, 10:41 PM
Alas, I did a lot of the hacking up of these forums using my other PC, so its files were all over the place. I liked how we had it setup, so I decided to just pay and restore it...

...that and I didnt want to readd the 400+ emoticons!! :P

holatuwol
10-06-2004, 11:15 PM
Out of curiosity, will the link to the old forums on http://rpgn.lintbox.net/index2.php be fixed to point to these new forums? I mean, right now, it's pointing to http://www.rpgamers.net/cgi-bin/board/boardpower.cgi, and those are the old forums, which haven't been posted to in a few months, which might confuse some visitors...

Locke Cole
10-07-2004, 03:12 PM
But of course, index2.php is under development, I am only working on the coding side right now, thats a simple content bug. That will be fixed long before it goes public.

Charon
10-11-2004, 06:30 PM
Well thank you Locke. Not just for paying out of your own pocket to get rpgn forums back, but for the fmvs, for explaining the reasons, and for accepting dndgamer onto lintbox. It's nice to know our money now goes to you rather than some random profit obsessed company. May your dreams come true and may you win back the heart of paula. :) Good luck in the enterprise and in life itself.

kaserdan
10-15-2004, 10:01 PM
I haven't been here for a pretty darn long time, but It's always nice to see how u guys are doing.

You played that smoothly Locke. Nicely done.

Astrolounge
11-11-2004, 06:35 PM
Excellent work man, My respect for you has gone higher than it has ever been.
(Which if you must know has always been quite high.)
And I thank you for paying out of the pocket for this.
Mere words can not express my gratitude.

I second the beer idea. :cheers:

Lord Draud
11-26-2004, 06:01 PM
GO LOCKE we like you man your like are internet god or something